new guy

[rumplestiltskin]

Ok, I'm new at this. I am wanting to start a busness as a security analyist.
basicaly, I get hired on to check someones security, and then I break in (all legal, I plan on registering with the police department) and then tell them what they need to beef up their security. Basically I need to Know EVERYTHING, where should I start?

[Mememe]

you have picked a tough challenge for yourself. To be of any use to companies you will have to be an expert in both physical and computer security. What experience do you have in either? I see from your profile you are a truck driver.

[mrdan]

I was thinking something like doing this once. I still may. I allready do consultations for security systems and locks for the company I work for now. But I was thinking of breaking off and grabing a few of my good tech friends and doing this eventually. Most alarm guys can spot weaknesses in security.

[mrdan]

One of the problems with the "trunk slammer" security companies is that a lot of them don't hire experienced or licensed techs. The techs that do get hired are lazy and sloppy and don't do proper installations. I have seen everything from bad splice points to shoddy placement of the devices. (what is more convenient and allow him to get to the next job quickly with total disregard to form or function) A properly installed alarm is real hard to foil. And pair that with good locksmithing and you have really got a marketable product.

[mrdan]

Oh and to start, I would get a job as an alarm tech and spend a few years (yes at least a few years) getting to know all about how alarms work and mostly the nuances of different technicians work. Different techniques used to install. This will give a foundation to work off of and determine probable locationjs of devices and wires. then you can spot more weaknesses that a lay person.

[mrdan]

Of course most of this has not much to do with Lockpicking, this is very little of a secure environment.

[rumplestiltskin]

Yes, I do understand that I have ALOTTTT ahead of me to do this, my background is that I have marine corps training in covert ops(the fun stuff). I appriccate the feed back. Also my wife is a certified security guard in the "high tec" side of things. I've "picked" numerous safes, digital entry, card keys, time locks,etc.... the main thing I know that I need to learn is "stand alone" full srcurity systems. electrical bypasses are easier than most people think, though to shut one part down usually means setting another part off. thanks again for the info!!!

[Double_Chin]

That sounds like an ill job. Once you've got the knowhow, it would be like a game as you try to enter these houses.

J

[TOWCH]

I think finding your market and selling yourself is a bigger hurdle than the related technical knowledge you will be selling. Maybe some of the big names in the industry will have some advice for you if you email them. If you have any luck with this be sure to post how you went about it.

[raimundo]

go to discovery channel and find the "it takes a thief' program, watching a seasons episodes will show you a lot about burglary, and what might keep one out, also the security upgrades are interesting, it sounds exactly like what you want to do, except that it includes a camera crew. and the second breakin to test the system is never convincing as he won't even break glass to do that one, but also, seeing the people who allow this, you may learn a bit of the psychology of the customers that might bite. and for actual burglars, the show 'cases' the house, displays the valuables, and tips you on the security system, in many cases, the security upgrades may have flaws, and if thats not enough, the second attempt sometimes locates the big flaw in all security systems, a complacent person who is not using it.