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by holdthetape » 10 Oct 2006 10:40
I posted most of this in the new member intro area last night, but I think it may not have been the best place for a specific question like mine. And BTW, this forum has LOTS of "new user post/start here" threads... Anyways...
Yesterday was the first day of my town's "clean-up" day, an event that happens a couple times a year. As always, I drove around to see what goodies I could score from the curb. This year, I got a Sentry A3750 fire/home safe. It has an electronic keypad, a keylock vaguely similar to ones on a soda machine, and appears to be in good condition outside of a cracked battery housing. Since the safe is already open, and I know that I can easily replace the battery housing, I wanted to know if it is possible to re-program the electronic password. Obviously, I'm assuming that these sorts of codes are erased if the batteries are removed... But to reiterate what I imagine what would ordinarily be the sticky part of this: THE DOOR IS ALREADY OPEN.
I have already searched for the A3750 online. All I got was a thread on this forum saying that such things aren't discussed. I am hoping that this was only due to the fact that the previous gentleman did not already have the door open, and was asking about picking the lock.
If all else fails, I'll probably just go back to the house sometime during the daytime and ask them if they have the original key. Barring this miracle of generousity, what would you all suggest?
--Dave
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by UWSDWF » 10 Oct 2006 10:42
nobody will help and it is against the rules to post about safe's in the public forums
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by holdthetape » 10 Oct 2006 11:08
Well, I didn't see that listed in any of the FAQs I read. And there IS a forum topic for this... besides, what possible harm could come from this information? Like I said, the safe is already open. I just want to use it myself now.
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by UWSDWF » 10 Oct 2006 11:13
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=715 here is the link to the rules and harm who knows but you're not gonna get the info you want here
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by holdthetape » 10 Oct 2006 11:17
Sheesh. So much for the wonderful world of helpful information. Perhaps some kind person will contact me offlist where we can discuss the forbidden topic of thrown-away open safe recycling.
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by Schuyler » 10 Oct 2006 11:20
And,
(and this goes out to everyone who posts "I have legit reason A to get into this car/safe/locker/whatever") When asking for help, saying that the safe is Open doesn't actually do anything to inspire confidence, because we're just taking your word for it at that point. But, a picture, that speaks a lot louder.
Anyway, no one will help you open a safe in the general forums. Sorry, man, for the time being you're going to have to ask the previous owners for a key.
Also? If they're throwing out the safe? There's likely a reason it got thrown out, know what I mean?
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by kodierer » 10 Oct 2006 11:28
I am sure there is a locksmith either in your area, or in the nearest large city capable of reprogamming your safe. You may also want to contact Sentry yourself.
I suggest taking the safe to a professional. It probably won't cost you much to have someone change the combination.
Feel free to stay, and learn to pick locks, and if you still have the safe when you get into our advanced forums I'm sure help will be abundant for you with this safe. Who knows maybe if you learn enough about locks in general, and keep searching on the inner workings of safes here, and elsewhere you may get the information you need before you get into our advanced forums.
as to the tubular lock http://southord.com sells picks for them. Do a video search if you need an example of its usage. Maybe you can play with that and figure something out.
Good Luck!
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by holdthetape » 10 Oct 2006 11:28
I can totally do a picture. No sweat! As for the whole "it's thrown out-it must be garbage argument", I gotta say, you'd be suprised. I've found nice big-screen televisions, more good VCRs than I can count, a fully-functioning riding lawnmower (okay, it needed a small gear for proper steering), a really good heavy-duty power washer, a nice slide for my baby son (which the power washer came in handy for), the leather executive desk chair I'm sitting in now, the printer stand I'm using, and the chaise lounge in my front room. I know it sounds pretty ridiculous, but people throw out a lot of very nice things, it seems we live in an incredibly wasteful society. I'll go take a picture of me and the safe, and post here in a little bit. Hold on!
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by Schuyler » 10 Oct 2006 11:48
Everything else you described I can see someone replacing, or upgrading, or changing the drapes so the furtinture no longer matches.
But a safe? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure people may realize they don't have a USE for a safe anymore, but I have a harder time believing they would upgrade the safe and want to toss it in the trash.
So, maybe they forgot the combo/lost the key, who knows?
Anyhow, while I do look forward to the picture (if for no other reason that it'll help ingratiate you to the community a little  ) unfortunately you won't recieve help for opening it here, yet. There's a proceedure to get into the advanced forums, and one of the most important parts of it is being around for a relatively long time.
Now, that said? I think you should bring this to a locksmith/safe-tech. Or at least give one a call. It probably wouldn't cost a whole lot and they may even be able to cut you a new key, along with reprogramming it, as kodierer had mentioned.
Either way, welcome to the forums, and I hope you'll find a lot of fun from this hobby.
Even if you just came for the safe info, stick around for the lockpicking, it's a hell of a thing, opening your first lock.
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by holdthetape » 10 Oct 2006 11:49
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/tangish/sentry101
I can't seem to make the image work in this post... so just go look at it. Hell, look at the rest of my photography while you're at it. The photo next door to it is the stereo I found at the curb-- 50 disc changer, no problems. NOW tell me you can't find good stuff on the curb. --Dave

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by devildog » 10 Oct 2006 11:51
I really don't see the harm in telling him how to change the combo. That info. really won't do any good to anyone trying to break into a safe.
If it were a mechanical lock and you had the door open all you'd need to do to decode the combo would be to open up the back of the safe lock and look at the wheel pack, but I take it this one's electronic soooo....
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by holdthetape » 10 Oct 2006 11:55
In my experience, people tend to throw things out not so much because they're replacing it as much as some small part is broken, and they believe the damage is much worse than it is. Rather than attempt a repair, folks avoid the hassle with a new purchase. With the safe, I'm guessing the small part is the battery holder-- it is located inside the keypad, and it was held together with electrical tape. The end had basically cracked off, so the springs touching the batteries would have constantly been pushing this piece apart. It's a fair chance they just got sick of the batteries falling out and tossed it out. Obviously, there may be other problems, but I'll encounter those later with a bit more info. For now, there is nothing that makes me suspect the unit to be anything but in good working order. If not, I picked up a very heavy, very ugly planter, ha ha.
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by UWSDWF » 10 Oct 2006 12:01
yeah combo changing is gonna be very hard on eletronics thats gonna need a pro
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by Schuyler » 10 Oct 2006 12:04
I love that picture!
Man, I'm glad you're here. I really do hope you take up lockpicking. I think you'll have a lot of fun with it. Especially if you like taking people's old junk (I hope no one is misinterpreting this sentence) because people are often happy to get rid of old locks they've lost the keys to.
Also, Nice shirt.
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by Shrub » 10 Oct 2006 12:11
Firstly welcome to the forums,
Secondly can you please remove your link from your signiture you must have missed that rule,
Thirdly there is one introduce yourself thread on this site not loads,
Fourthly and the bit i guess you want to hear,
Most digital safes have a reset button of somesort on the rear,
Remove any covers you can off the back of the door, if they are riveted on you will need to drill the rivets off and re rivel it afterwards, look on the back of the digi unit and see if you can find this reset button,
If the until is only accessable from the front then do the same,
You may find it under the battery cover,
Having its battery removed may infact have reset the code but im not sure, get in contact with the manufactures for the standard shipping code to test that out, thats somthign we cant post here,
Other than that, you will have to indeed go ask the household you aquired it from,
Any other method of resetting the code is a bit much to explain here and requires a specific plug in board possably connected to a pc,
All this is only ideas and maybe not even what you need to do but its the course of action i would start with myself, other than that see if some of the buttons are worn more than the others and simply try the differant combos you can get with those,
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