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High Security Cylinders

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High Security Cylinders

Postby pauly003 » 6 Nov 2006 16:25

I have a question about high security cylinders, directed to people who work as a locksmith. During the course of a normal day or week, how many high security cylinders do you come across. Would i be right in guessing that 99% of your calls are to service basic, medium quality 5 pin cylinders.
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Postby devildog » 6 Nov 2006 16:39

Hm, I'd be curious in hearing what our lockies have to say about this, too, and I'd be inclined to agree (from my own observation of locks typically used) that the percentage of high-security locks a lockie would some across would be around 1-2%.
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Postby zeke79 » 6 Nov 2006 16:44

For me it honestly depends as some days we have worked on nothing but primus, other days nothing but standard schlage. In this area we have alot of primus so we do encounter it often in service work. I'd say about 10% of the time give or take for an average.
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Postby UWSDWF » 6 Nov 2006 16:56

I would think that it would be related to the part of the world (europe tends to use highsecurity locks everywhere) and whether you have commercial contracts
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Postby Romstar » 6 Nov 2006 17:08

On average about 10% of my work involves something that could be classed as high security.

The rest, even with businesses are standard 5-7 pin cylinders. The quality can vary, but overall thats the meat of it.

I like to sell high security locks as much as the next guy, but many people around here just don't see the advantage. So, with the exception of banks, certain government agencies and some busineses, I see a lot of SFIC stuff, and plain Jane cylinders.

Medeco account for a good portion of the high security stuff I see.

So thats that for me.

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Postby maxxed » 6 Nov 2006 17:17

Location and market segment would be important determining factors for any individual answering this question. I would estimate my high security @ 5 - 10%, although I spent all day thursday doing nothing but Primus and tomorrow I have the whole day booked for a Multilock masterkey system
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Postby Bump » 6 Nov 2006 19:11

Again it depends on area and the perceived risk. In the cities, especially London, (other cities are available) there are a greater percentage of both domestic and commercial premises fitted with higher security locks.

Out in the sticks folk tend to be more laid back with reliance on the euro cylinder/Upvc door configuration or Rim cylinder where the lock quality is very unpredictable but tends to be middle to lower end (Mila/Yale/ERA/Bird etc) As a generalisation, in the UK, insurance companies require either 5 point locking for Upvc or nightlatch and mortice for wooden doors; the challenge of overcoming a BS 3621 mortise lock would, I believe rate the experience as high security.

Other than contract quality locks, most of our contemporary cylinders have some form of security pin(s), these are usually found on the newer houses. Commercial premises are a bit less conformist and can have anything from a Chubb 110 or Ingersoll 10 pin cylinder to a scrappy 3 lever tinplate far east copy. More modern commercials are tending to move over to electronic entry devices which is another field altogether.
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 6 Nov 2006 19:21

most of the high sec stuff is in done inhouse over here but I'd
say 20% of the lock and key calls I run are high sec.
However 2 of the trucks in our fleet are equipped for medeco,multilock IC rekeys except for key cutting.
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Postby bumpit » 6 Nov 2006 21:21

Medeco account for a good portion of the high security stuff I see.



I live in B.C. and I have seen lots of Medeco around. The doors on my College have Medeco locks.
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Postby Tyler Durden » 7 Nov 2006 7:14

Good answer bump. I can agree with what you saying there. it goes for pretty much the same up my way.
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Postby globallockytoo » 7 Nov 2006 10:00

This is going to be rare, but I would say....right now....High security makes up 95% of my work.
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Postby keysman » 7 Nov 2006 12:56

It all depends on where your main business is. For me, between electronic and high security .. 90 - 95 % ,the other 5% is lockers and desks, file cabs ect,
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Postby iNtago » 7 Nov 2006 13:00

bumpit wrote:I live in B.C. and I have seen lots of Medeco around. The doors on my College have Medeco locks


the only medico i ever saw was on the door to blockbuster :lol:
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