GUESS THE LOCK GAME!!

by **Lucky1406** » 16 Nov 2006 2:40

Yep, thats it, I got it off of ebay, for around $11 shipped. I thought it would be fun to play with, but I was wrong. Its incredibaly hard to do any kind of picking on. If you ever get one to play with, you'll understand. And also, there is a hole in the key way. This is so that when you turn the key, a bar comes through the lock and holds the key in place. This bar would get in the way of any picks that you would have in there. I've been picking at mine, havent gotten it, but have felt some of the pins find their homes. Maybe one day. It's just that the wafers have a lot of spring tension on them, making it very difficult to do anything with. Oh well. I hope I didn't get to advanced. Thanks for finding out what it was,
Nick

by mh » 16 Nov 2006 7:44

You're welcome

Anyway, it was fun to read the stuff on this ABA web page
http://www.abalocks.com/style/content/C ... e_id=23369
- e.g. The "Elegant artwork." :lol:

Or "World wild patent pending"

by **raimundo** » 16 Nov 2006 9:45

looking at the symetry of the pagoda key, I am guessing that you could put tension on one side of the keyway and work the other side with an angled slant on your pick. notice that the deepest part of the key is the center of the keyway, and the cuts slope to the outer shallowest part. I did not see a shallow center and deep outer part on any of the keys in the diagram. so I suspect that it could be picked by angleing a pick along on side. the symetry could just be so keys do not fail to work regardless of the way they are put in, but I am guessing that the pins on one side are connected to and move the pins on the other side. Its just a thought, though, the only locks with such a key I can think of are antique pushkey padlocks.

by **Lucky1406** » 16 Nov 2006 14:00

This is a high security lock, so I dont know how much we can talk about it, but no, the pins on the right aren't connected to the pins on the left, you have to pick them seperately. And you cant put a pick in from the side, no room. Its very small. I was using the end of one of my small tension wrenches to poke at the pins. But with the heavy spring inside the lock, it makes it very difficult to do anything with. I'll mail the lock to someone with experiance if they want a shot at it, as long as you'll send it back.

let me know,
Nick

by **Schuyler** » 16 Nov 2006 15:43

There's an LSI chapter in Austin, if you've got a car. Looks to be about 2 or 3 hours from ya?

by mh » 16 Nov 2006 16:17

Did you look at the ABA web page http://www.abalocks.com/ ?

On the top, there's an animated graphic showing the mechanism.
The locking elements aren't pins, they are discs.

And because of that setup, of course the key has to be 'convex'.

by Al » 16 Nov 2006 16:55

greyman wrote:It's not Evva or MulTLock. Give up?

Reminds me of a VS6 but the plug does not look exactly the same.

by **greyman** » 17 Nov 2006 16:23

You're close. It's an Abus TS5000! I think it's been in a thread or two around here. I don't think I would've guessed it myself if I hadn't been the one to post it

On the Aba Pagoda. Cute lock - I couldn't pick it but I didn't try very hard. It's got 4 discs with pegs on them. The cuts on the key pick up the pegs (they get closer together towards the middle of the keyway). The discs have got to end up at the right depths - there's lots of chambers in the barrel of the lock and the discs have two bumps that normally stop the plug from turning.

The problem is that the discs tend to skew and this doesn't help you pick it. If you made a tweezer type pick it might help. Let me know if anyone here can pick it.

by **zeke79** » 17 Nov 2006 16:40

greyman wrote:You're close. It's an Abus TS5000! I think it's been in a thread or two around here. I don't think I would've guessed it myself if I hadn't been the one to post it

On the Aba Pagoda. Cute lock - I couldn't pick it but I didn't try very hard. It's got 4 discs with pegs on them. The cuts on the key pick up the pegs (they get closer together towards the middle of the keyway). The discs have got to end up at the right depths - there's lots of chambers in the barrel of the lock and the discs have two bumps that normally stop the plug from turning.

The problem is that the discs tend to skew and this doesn't help you pick it. If you made a tweezer type pick it might help. Let me know if anyone here can pick it.

I cannot believe I did not get that one

. I actually have a couple sitting around here somewhere too..

by **n2oah** » 17 Nov 2006 16:56

zeke79 wrote:I cannot believe I did not get that one . I actually have a couple sitting around here somewhere too..

Even I recognised that it was a TS5000!

by **greyman** » 18 Nov 2006 9:32

OK, wise guys

What's this?

by **unbreakable** » 18 Nov 2006 11:12

GM sidebar lock?

by **greyman** » 18 Nov 2006 13:16

You're right about the sidebar, but wrong on the make

by mh » 18 Nov 2006 16:38

No idea about the sidebar.

But what's this, and why is it machined this way?

mh

by **n2oah** » 18 Nov 2006 17:28

mh wrote:No idea about the sidebar.

But what's this, and why is it machined this way?

mh

It looks like a lock that you screw out.

Greyman's must be some type of auto wafer lock. Probably a laser-track type. Pictures of the wafers/keyway would really help.

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