whats the point?

[horsefeathers]

hi

Am i missing something fundamental here? Perhaps my brain isn't quite up to speed this morning yet!

I have noticed on ebay a mul-t-lock key and card set, brand new. Cheap as chips (140056813512 - uk ebay). I have noticed these sets before.

So unless I am missing something, all you get is two pre-cut keys and a registration card so you can cut more if required! No lock that the keys fit however! So why buy keys for a lock you dont have?

I expect there is an obvious answer, but my morning caffeine dose hasnt taken effect yet so apologies for my dumbness!

regards

[TOWCH]

Repin a lock to the keys I guess. Locksmiths will keep precut keys on hand and repin locks to them rather than repin a lock and then cut a key from code to fit it.

[devildog]

I've got a bunch of Medeco and Multlock ID/copy cards, I should probably stick those on ebay and see what happens....

[Shrub]

It is a little pointless to an extent,

For the hobby picker its a good way of getting keys that otherwise cant be bought either for bum key experimentation or repinning locks, if they were cheaper i would grab a few sets of interactive keys for sure, cheaper to repin than replace in some instances,

[horsefeathers]

So how much labour would you charge, inc any call out, to re-pin a customers Mul-T-Lock? This aint no 5 min job I am certain! Gotta be close to, if not the same price as, a brand new replacement. Any customer with a Mult-T-Lock on his door knows how good they are and probably knows they are not cheap, and therefore knows the value of good security.

Say £40 for the lock, £20 labour (if local), totalling £60. That surely must be more effective, both in cost and in labour time, for the customer and locky!

So I still feel it a pointless purchase, unless like Shrub says, a hobbyist fancies larking about with taking one apart are re-keying. The hobbyist has the time to spend all morning fiddling with it.

Perhaps I should flog my old Yale/Union/legge etc keys for a couple of quid, in case anyone wants to repin a 3 quid rim cylinder.

regards

[Shrub]

Ah yea no sorry, i didnt mean i would get some for customers, i have only seen two up to now, i meant someone playing at home,

As you say its probably a clean cut case of people will sell anything and other will buy it,

[maxxed]

So how much labour would you charge, inc any call out, to re-pin a customers Mul-T-Lock? This aint no 5 min job I am certain!

I can assure you that it really doesn't take any more time to rekey a Mul-T-Lock than any other pin type lock.

[horsefeathers]

You are probably right Maxxed - i have never stripped, re-pinned and reassembled one myself.

However what I had in mind was a euro cylinder style of M/lock, which are very common here, rather than a more traditional (yale type) rim cylinder. Re-pinning euros is more time consuming than rim cylinders so I just guessed that a M/lock euro would therefore be a pain in the derrier!

Anyone repinned a M/lock euro? How long and tricky was it?

regards

[maxxed]

You are probably right Maxxed - i have never stripped, re-pinned and reassembled one myself.

However what I had in mind was a euro cylinder style of M/lock, which are very common here, rather than a more traditional (yale type) rim cylinder. Re-pinning euros is more time consuming than rim cylinders so I just guessed that a M/lock euro would therefore be a pain in the derrier!

Anyone repinned a M/lock euro? How long and tricky was it?

regards

I first assumed that you meant the euro type but I thought that the euro type was spelled out differently. I am helping another company out, who's lockie quit, and they have a lot of Mul-T-Lock so I have the opportunity to experiment with it for a little while yet. I was surprised at how easy it was to work on.

[EvoRed]

I bought a set off eBay, bargain at a couple of quid.

Got some keyed alike Garrison's and, due to an error on my part, eneded up with too many. Obviously the card was given to the customer leaving me with no keys/card so I just bought a set off eBay and re-pinned them, problem solved.