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 by raimundo » 19 Jan 2007 13:24
top of the page at newsparkling has an abloy type of pick, I came across a thread a couple days ago, someone was asking about picking an abloy type, woulda put this post in that thread, but cant find it.
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by UWSDWF » 19 Jan 2007 13:26
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by zeke79 » 19 Jan 2007 13:29
That pick appears to be geared more toward the 2nd generation abus locks. Not to be confused with the falle tool which only works on 1st gen abus locks. There are now 3rd generation abus locks out as of late last year that prevent the new sparkling pick from working. Atleast from what I can see in the picture it will not work on 3rd gen abus.
Keep in mind that discussion of the operation of these tools is advanced material.
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
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by Shrub » 19 Jan 2007 14:02
Wow, how much tension do they expect you to need on a disc lock lol,
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by UWSDWF » 19 Jan 2007 14:04
200PSI
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by zeke79 » 19 Jan 2007 14:18
Shrub wrote:Wow, how much tension do they expect you to need on a disc lock lol,
Dont be mislead. Due to the material used to make the tool it needs to be made that way. With the rising costs of steels the tool is now made entirely of lead  . For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
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by Shrub » 19 Jan 2007 14:40
LOL
Odered a load of keys the other day, first time since the prices have gone up, couldnt belive the price differance, guess its all those shells being used in these wars that keep happening,
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by cjames73 » 19 Jan 2007 14:49
Shrub wrote:LOL
Odered a load of keys the other day, first time since the prices have gone up, couldnt belive the price differance, guess its all those shells being used in these wars that keep happening,
you would think the price would come down with all the wars going on, brass ilco blanks are made from used shell casings!
http://www.kaba-ilco.com/key_systems/vi ... ?sm=videos
watch the modern marvels video.
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by Firearm » 19 Jan 2007 20:09
I want that giant Yale cut-away lock.
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by mh » 21 Jan 2007 17:35
zeke79 wrote:Atleast from what I can see in the picture it will not work on 3rd gen abus.
I guess you refer to the ABUS X-Plus system - I believe the tool would work, but you need to prepare the lock first using another tool. That first tool wouldn't even be considered advanced 
Cheers,
mh "The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by zeke79 » 21 Jan 2007 17:49
The tool on it's own though is not 3rd gen compatible. I would still consider 1st gen advanced as we still consider the "half moon" abloys advanced  . For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
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by mh » 21 Jan 2007 18:08
zeke79 wrote:The tool on it's own though is not 3rd gen compatible. I would still consider 1st gen advanced as we still consider the "half moon" abloys advanced .
Sure, but the first tool you need to 'prepare' the ABUS X-Plus is a non-advanced one...  "The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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