Mounting a mortise cylinder to a practice board

[lancelot6840]

I made a setup to mount locks to so I can practice picking them. I've mounted several different locks, but I am having trouble with my mortise locks. It's basically a 2x8 mounted to a 2x6 base with holes drilled in it to mount the cylinders. I am trying to think of a way to mount the mortise cylinders without having to mount a huge handle that this type of cylinder would normally go in. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[whiteknight38]

Mortise locks should be easy. Simply drill a 1" hole, to house the lock, and a 1/8" hole at a right angle to the center line to tap in a screw. The V shaped groove in a mortise lock is designed to accommodate a set screw for this very purpose. If you glue some kind of Jerry-rigged handle to the screw head, like an electrical morrett (sp?) hand tightening the screw against the lock will hold it tight enough to work with, and facillitate changing cylinders quickly.
I'm wondering if you actually meant KIK (Key in Knob) cylinders, though. From the front, they have a profile sort of like a lightbulb? Simillar solution. Drill a 3'4" hole, (slightlyl smaller if you have the right bit.) with a center about 1" down from the top of the mount. Then make two saw cuts down (to remove about 1/4 inch of material) to create a channel to accommodate the upper pin chamber.
Tap another set screw hole if you like, for switching locks out, as you feel the need.
My mounts are in a storage locker, but I'll post a picture someday.

[lancelot6840]

It is a mortise cylinder. It has a V groove on the left and right side of the cylinder. Thanks for the idea.

[2octops]

The ideal way would be to mount it in a small body lock like a Lori deadbolt that accepts mortise cylinders.

A cheaters way would me to take a small piece of plywood and cut a hole just large enough for the cylinder to go into and epoxy the cylinder to the plywood. Then attach the plywood to the 2x8 with a couple of screws.

You could still remove the small piece of plywood so you can repin the cylinder.

Another way would be to drill a hole in the 2x8 for the cylinder to fit and shoot a wood screw into the side of the 2x8 in the center of the hole to rest in the groove in the side of the mortise cylinder. You would have to cut away some of the back of the 2x8 for the cam to spin around though.

[lancelot6840]

What is a lori deadbolt? I was looking at drilling a hole the size of the cylinder and placing a screw through the side of the 2x8 to hold the cylinder in place. But, like you said, I'll have to chisel out some wood for the cam in the back to move. Do you have a pic of a lori deadbolt?

[christian_ptrsn]

I don't have any info for you, but I think that the practice board is a good idea for deadbolts and padlocks just for easier, neater storage, and more realistic practice. (Well, I guess you should never need to pick a lock on a door or gate or something unless you forgot your keys so... yeah.)

[lancelot6840]

Thanks for the reply. I've accumulated so many locks now that I'm going to have to make a second and third practice board now.

[unbreakable]

For mortises in mine, I use push pins, like what you use in corkboard.

viewtopic.php?t=15821&highlight=lockboard

That ones mine. SOmetimes I have to use 2 pins, if I need to use really heavy tension.

[lancelot6840]

Thanks for that link. It gives me some ideas on how to build my next board.