Beginner's Lockpicking Exercise - by digital_blue

[UWSDWF]

try pinning it 60806

[freakparade3]

try pinning it 60806

Man, thats just cruelty to newbies.

[Charodei]

I'll try that next. 06806 was rather frustrating for a while. The fun part is that to repin it, I have to pick it first. Shimming is cheating a bit, especially on a Kwikset with no security pins.

Is it cruelty if we enjoy it?

[freakparade3]

I'll try that next. 06806 was rather frustrating for a while. The fun part is that to repin it, I have to pick it first. Shimming is cheating a bit, especially on a Kwikset with no security pins.

Is it cruelty if we enjoy it?

I'd still use a shim when removing the plug. If you get the plug halfway out and it spins you can have pins fall in the chambers and lock the plug when it's halfway out of the shell. It can be a mess.

[digital_blue]

I'll try that next. 06806 was rather frustrating for a while. The fun part is that to repin it, I have to pick it first. Shimming is cheating a bit, especially on a Kwikset with no security pins.

Is it cruelty if we enjoy it?

I must say, you appear to be a pretty well-informed n00bie. Sounds like you're doing great, and I'm glad you found the exercise useful.

Also sounds like it's time to A) get some security pins, and B) get some more locks to work with.

You'll find that no matter how you pin the lock, you will eventually be able to pick it quickly and consistently because you will have learned "the feel" of that lock. Having a variety of locks to pick can make a HUGE difference to your future success.

And as for the security pins... well.. they're just fun.

db

[Charodei]

I must say, you appear to be a pretty well-informed n00bie. Sounds like you're doing great, and I'm glad you found the exercise useful.

Also sounds like it's time to A) get some security pins, and B) get some more locks to work with.

You'll find that no matter how you pin the lock, you will eventually be able to pick it quickly and consistently because you will have learned "the feel" of that lock. Having a variety of locks to pick can make a HUGE difference to your future success.

And as for the security pins... well.. they're just fun.

Thanks. I'll attribute it to decent search-fu, thinking before I write, and learning from the mistakes of others.

I'm getting better at feeling what's happening in the lock; some security pins will test me nicely. I got the two-sided deadbolt for the extra cylinder, and they bind differently. As for more, my box of locks will get a thread of its own.

After a few measurements and consulting specs, the original pinning is actually 00556. 50605 was evil, but doable; I'll try it on the other cylinder for a different binding order next, and 55060 sounds fun too.

[digital_blue]

You'll be well skilled at the rate you're at. I have no doubt. Good work!

db

[MelbourneMagpie1]

hi,

This is my first post.

This guide was a breakthrough for me.

Critical was realising that you could actually buy locks that were made to be pulled apart and repinned, and others that aren't.

I always thought you would start lockpicking by buying a bunch of cheap + easy locks. But you can't really pull these apart. Then I realised you could actually buy the internal lock part for a cheap price $15AUD, and it is designed to be pulled apart and repinned.

I'm having fun repinning the cylinder. It really gives you a sense of how this works. Getting the circlip off at first was a pain - circlip pliers didn't really help, I just needed to buy a decent small screwdriver - the watchmaker screwdrivers were just bending too easily on the circlip.

I'm also using this 1, 2, 3, 4, then 5 technique to learn bumping.

e.g.: I couldn't bump a 5 pin, but I can bump a 2 pin, and will try the 3 pin mode next.

One problem I have found with only having 1-3 pins set near the front is that sometimes a key will pull the cylinder through and the spring will push the driver pin through one of the empty holes in the cylinder and the spring will get broken/bent.

I guess this is because I have been too lazy to put the circlip back on each time?

I've only got 5 springs and 3 are now broken.

I hope my local locksmith will sell me some when I go looking for them tomorrow...

Thanks again for a great tutorial. I would add this technique into the LSI guide.

[digital_blue]

I guess this is because I have been too lazy to put the circlip back on each time?

Well, yes... your options are really to either reinstall the circlip, or just be more careful now that you understand the risk.

It sounds like you're off to a good start though. Happy picking!

db

[MelbourneMagpie1]

I have been insulted from the few locksmiths I have rung.

They think I am a criminal for wanting to buy a handful of cylinder springs.

I know I can buy a bag of 1000, but I'm not that bad.

Anyone in Melb want to donate me some cylindar springs for my training this exercise?
I'm happy to paypal costs.

[Chucklz]

MelbourneMagpie1

Instead of trying to get some springs, get yourself a small pinning kit (includes springs). I beleive LAB makes one that is specific for Lockwood locks, which I understand are quite popular in oz. Be warned however, if you go through a US website make sure you get a kit for Lockwood Australia. There is a US brand of locks called Lockwood, and they aren't the same.

[jhl]

Or start collecting old locks. Carry a screwdriver when you're out and about and keep your eyes peeled.

Lockwood are now owned by the ASSA Abloy group, I think.

[MelbourneMagpie1]

MelbourneMagpie1

Instead of trying to get some springs, get yourself a small pinning kit (includes springs). I beleive LAB makes one that is specific for Lockwood locks, which I understand are quite popular in oz. Be warned however, if you go through a US website make sure you get a kit for Lockwood Australia. There is a US brand of locks called Lockwood, and they aren't the same.

Yes I'm trying to source the Lab lockwood right now. It isn't actually listed on the official lab website!

If you know any online shops that can get it let me know.

[slay2k]

Hi,

So I'm a beginner who wants to start right and try this. I also don't want to buy any "dick-in-a-box" kits with shady-quality 1-pin cylinders.

With that said, do I need a vice or a cylinder-holder of some kind ? I don't remember you mentioning in your essay whether this process should happen while holding the cylinder in your hand, or in a vice of some kind.

So, here's what I plan on buying. Tell me if I'm missing something or making any mistakes:

5-pin cylinder -> http://www.lockpickshop.com/5PPC.html

Lockpicks & Tensioners ->
http://www.lockpickshop.com/PXS-14.html (or should I buy them separately?)

-> Some tweezers for disassembly
-> Some kind of vice ? Do I need this ?
-> Should I buy a plug follower for that cylinder ? Or try and make one myself ?

Alright guys, thanks for the help

[SEVEN]

Dont bother with practice cylinder's just buy bogstandered pin cylinders the cheaper the better to start with.Pickset's can be bought cheaper it's worth shopping around,a small bench vise is a must as for a follower just make one load's of idea's on site.Good luck and mastering this exersize lead's to guarenteed success. There are some decent repinning kit's on ebay at the moment well worth a look.