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idealcreations.net worth it?

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

idealcreations.net worth it?

Postby n00bking » 9 May 2007 17:15

Hey, I have a 25 dollar visa gift card usable online.

I have one of 3 things in mind to use it on. Maybe more.

Battlefield 2 for the Xbox 360.

www.idealcreations.net jackknife keychain lock picker (not the nice one, the n00by 25 buck one.)
or...from the same site the set of picks that fits in your wallet but isn't on a keychain.
maybe some bump keys from somewhere.

Assuming that no one here plays video games...which one of the lock pick kits/sets should I get from idealcreations if at all? I mean, are they really good? Are they worth the money? I have a pick set already, but I want these for the coolness but again, are they worth it? They look a little shabby.

Thanks.
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Postby n00bking » 9 May 2007 17:18

PS, has anyone taken a car key blank and made a bump key out of it? And do they work? I was thinking about it a day ago...
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Postby UWSDWF » 9 May 2007 17:20

nope not worth the metal it's made of..... seriously
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Postby Eyes_Only » 9 May 2007 17:23

I like their tubular lock tensioner but everything else looks like something you can do a better job at making yourself.

And no, you can't bump a car lock. The Newtons law of motion thing doesn't work on them.
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Postby Shrub » 10 May 2007 5:33

If you do a little research on ideal creations you may find that there has yet to be a good review of the shop and the tools dont seem very competative in the price stakes,

Leave alone and go to our sites sponcer,
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Postby Marco321 » 10 May 2007 5:42

I got the fiberglass southord jackknife, its very nice and light, but not that much feedback. It can also easily fit on your keychain. Shrub is right, go to the websites sponcer.
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Postby Shrub » 10 May 2007 5:52

Ah yes sorry i didnt even address the question, never buy a jacknife of any material if you are learning,
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Postby Marco321 » 10 May 2007 5:59

Yeah the jackknife isn't good to learn with, but its entertaining to have. Go for a proper set first.
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Postby n00bking » 10 May 2007 17:02

http://www.tacticalinc.com is selling a featherlight jackknife for 20 bucks! although, I don't like the picks. The ball and key remover I don't want. I would want in place one of those picks that looks like a key. www.lockpicks.com calls it a single sided pick. That and maybe what LP.com calls a jag rake pick or a like diamond but like it is slanted at the end of the thing. It is hard to explain. Now...www.lockpicktools.com sells a jackknife that has the same picks but is like 37 bucks but u can buy different picks for it...i am so torn.
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Postby Krypos » 10 May 2007 17:24

i play battlefield 2 a bit.

good game. tactical and a lot of fun when you arent getting spawn camped or cartilleried.
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Postby NIC » 10 May 2007 18:31

Get this !! It will be as good has the jacknife !!

http://www.tacticalinc.com/imagemagic.p ... page=popup
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Postby blake1803 » 10 May 2007 19:46

n00bking wrote:like diamond but like it is slanted at the end of the thing.


I think you are referring to a pick that has a few different names: "DeForrest," "diamond hook," "gem.

In any case, the jackknife that Southern Specialties sells is the only one (excluding something you make youself ;)) for which you can get that type of pick. As you mentioned below, you can choose from a variety of picks to include with it. Their jackknife also gives surpsingly good feedback. Not great, but good as far as the jackknives go.

I think of a jackknife as more of a novelty than a set of tools, and so maybe a bit of a waste of money, but if you are set on getting one, the Southern Specialties knife is the best IMO.
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Postby n00bking » 11 May 2007 19:48

Shrub wrote:If you do a little research on ideal creations you may find that there has yet to be a good review of the shop and the tools dont seem very competative in the price stakes,

Leave alone and go to our sites sponcer,


stlbolt wrote:I must say, I just received this today and it is actually a really nice tool and is small and lightweight, Ive used all the picks on it and its made pretty good, Ive picked a car door (my car) and some Emtek and Masterlock's with the picks out of it everything you need right in the keychain... Pretty handy... Anyone else have one of these?


sublime progie wrote:wallet set. At first when i ordered them i was worried as i read another forum and many people mentioned a wallet set was too small to work with. however i checked the site today and noticed that they have included a handle.

it is screw in and i was worried that it would be difficult to tighten it enough. well to my excitement i got it in today and this is simply not true. it tightens in great with a finger nail. it is lined in rubber and holds the pick firm. the metal is alittle rough and a little cheap but for like 12 picks for 24 bucks american you cant really complain. that includes shipping by the way.

anyways they picks include a double half diamond, a mini half diamond, a feeler, a half circle, two types of warded locks,a full rake, and a car jiggler. it also supposively has two sizes of tubular lock picks i am not sure how they work yet becuase they dont look like regular tubeular locks. i was suppose to get a cd illistrating this but i will have to call bright and early to chew them out about that. the picks as advertised fit in a wallet as doeas the handle. when added together the handle and chosen pick are about the same length as southord picks. but with a little more comfy grip

from one two 5 i would gice the quality of these picks about a 7 and i may give them a little better in time. i will post picks tomorrow for all two see.

Also it has a double sided tension wrench but i have only found the smaller end of it useful as the other is huge. but i think i would rather stick with the one i am using now. i dont really care for the tension wrench actually

this is my first review so if i have left anything important out let me know

All the picks i used so far have worked as good or a little better than my southord set. i just had a 5 piece though


What was that you were saying about no good reviews again?
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Postby Chucklz » 14 May 2007 0:43

When considering a review, you must consider the reviewer. A review by an experienced picker is often more valuable than one by a new picker. One should also consider the content of the review. A review saying X is nice, and I opened some really easy locks with it probably isn't an especially good test of the tool. The "i just got this today" review isn't often useful, you really need to spend some time with a tool to get a handle for its strengths and weaknesses.

The reviews you posted are for two different products. One positive review for a product isn't encouraging in the least. Just take a casual look at the website. Do you think a company selling a pick or a pick set as a "picker" is really someone who knows what they are talking about? Nothing like confusing the tool and the user to inspire confidence. Then have a look at how this website attempts to use the written word. Surely you can trust a company to carefully design and QC their product with the same set of skills and diligence that results this grammatical catastrophe; " Repeat this process for about a minuit or two and the lock should open. safety pin or hair pin into a powerful lock picking tool." Oh, and these errors have been on their site for a very long time (many months).

Finally check out this video http://idealcreations.net/pick4lk.mpg .
First, his technique leaves everything to be desired. Next, notice how he recommends the use of a wider tension wrench simply because the shackle is longer, while the keyway is exactly the same as the other locks. Clearly this guy really knows what he is talking about, and is in a good position to recommend tools, and certainly isn't after a quick buck.

Honestly, that website is a source of much laughter here. Remember, you can always find a few beleivers and a few good reviews of anything. I'm sure you can find a few movie reviewers who liked Gigli, or people who find MTV a good source for compelling and thought provoking music.
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Postby Jaakko » 14 May 2007 3:42

Chucklz wrote:Finally check out this video http://idealcreations.net/pick4lk.mpg

FIrst time I saw that one and I think, Chucklz, that you own me a cup of coffee and a new keyboard :lol: :roll: :wink:
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