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beginning

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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beginning

Postby crash13 » 16 May 2007 23:32

ive looked through this site (too big to read everything) and i havent seen anyone talking about a good book to read for a beginner. i have read alot on the internet including the MIT Guide to Lock Picking by Ted the Tool. so i understand how a basic pin tumbler works, but is there anything else i should read(through internet or paperback)?
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Postby JackNco » 16 May 2007 23:50

LI (formerly LSI) guide.
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Postby ridderhenck » 17 May 2007 1:01

You,ve already mentioned this site,believe me this is where you find alot,just figure out what you want to know,use the search button,and you will get the picture,when you look at first sight[site :D ]then it,s too much,but really,keywords like wafer lock,lever lock,pin tumbler lock,impressioning,etc teaches you a lot of the basic knowledge,goodluck 8)
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Postby Eyes_Only » 17 May 2007 1:06

From personal experience the only good lockpicking/locksmithing books thats out there are "The Complete Book of Locks and Locksmithing" by Bill Phillips and "Locks, Safes and Security" by Mark Tobias. But the majority of the basics of what you need to know can be learned here. I know there are a lot of pointless post out there but if you take your time you can save yourself a lot, and I mean A LOT of money from having to buy and try out even more pointless and worthless books.
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Postby ridderhenck » 17 May 2007 1:12

It,s how I got started,and Lss helped me also a GREAT deal,check also the Dutch Tooolsite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D and Yes,it has Three O,s,in English it would have been three P,s..PRACTICE,PRACTICE,PRACTICE :wink:
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Postby Shrub » 17 May 2007 4:52

I disagree that lss is a good noobs book, it doesnt tell you anything as regards tips for picking it merely tells you OF things that CAN be achieved by SOME people with the RIGBHT tools and KNOWLEDGE,

I agree its an exchaustive book and i will print it out one day and enjoy reading it but the folio control system and the whole reading books on the pc thing stop me from reading it properly right now,

For the noob not being able to pick i suggest the guide on my www button is your fisrt step,

Your next step is one of two things, either read the guide on matt blazes site or then start to read up on this site,

Whether you read Matts guide or not the final thing to do is always to read this site,

This site is the biggest and best site in the world for lockpicking, anything you want to know that is legal is on this site in some form repeated more than 10 times,

Sit yourself down a few hours each day and read, start at the begining and dont stop unitl the end,

Once done you will know as much as any people on this site,
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Postby cjames73 » 17 May 2007 6:19

Shrub wrote:This site is the biggest and best site in the world for lockpicking, anything you want to know that is legal is on this site in some form repeated more than 10 times,

Sit yourself down a few hours each day and read, start at the begining and dont stop until the end

by the time you read this whole site you'll be too old and frail to even pick a lock :lol:

everything you need to know is here though.
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Postby Shrub » 17 May 2007 7:07

You trying to say somthing about me??

:D :P

Takes around 3 months of 1-2 hours every day or at least when i read it thats how long it took me as i read everything and took it all in,
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Postby ponsaloti » 17 May 2007 7:42

Dis-regard anything on bumping, it should then only take you half the time to read the whole site.
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Postby raimundo » 17 May 2007 7:47

if you had used the search word 'book' or books, you might have found ten or more threads, usually starting with a noob OP praising some steev hampton money scam book or some other pamphlet that is sold for a dollar a page if you check the price against the # of pages, (not all of the pages have any text or pictures, and if you had read those threads, you would have found reviews that say waste of money, this excludes the real works of authorship like Bill Phillips several books and LSS.

on the other hand, if you had paid attention to the 'how to' threads sometimes called stickies, you would have enough information to write a book that isn't crap.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 17 May 2007 8:14

Shrub wrote:I disagree that lss is a good noobs book, it doesnt tell you anything as regards tips for picking it merely tells you OF things that CAN be achieved by SOME people with the RIGBHT tools and KNOWLEDGE,


Yeah I agree that LSS isn't probably the best book for a novice to start out with when trying to learn how to pick locks. It does have a good sized chapter on picking but it lacks in pictures and diagrams that a novice desperately needs to learn how to pick since most of the really good info on the subject is only text. It really doesn't help unless you already have a very good understanding of the picking process. But once you do become proficient at picking most basic locks it will reveal things and give you a lot of insight on the deeper subject of lockpicking and turn it into a science from an art.
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Postby Afisch » 17 May 2007 16:42

As to reading the site, its probly worth reading the stickys. Then searching for further info. I think ive read all of the stickys and everything posted since i joined. Then again it could be said i spend too much time online =D.
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Postby crash13 » 23 May 2007 0:47

thx for all ur input. i checked out "the complete guide to locks and locksmithing" by bill phillips from my library.
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Postby Shrub » 23 May 2007 6:26

Nice one, i assume it was a lot quicker and easier than clicking on my www button,

Hope it all helps you and you get picking locks really quickly,
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Postby thubanpete » 23 May 2007 10:33

Shrub's guide is a great way to get started. He's done a great job putting together a beginners guide to lock picking. It's seriously worth a look. :)

If you want something a little more advanced, I have a suggestion. A book that's helped me a lot is the Visual Guide To Lock Picking 3rd Edition (http://www.lockpickshop.com/VISUAL.html). It's clearly written and illustrated, which can be a big help if the going gets rough.

But still, the first step would be Shrub's guide.

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