Home Key Transponders?

[Krypos]

it came to my attention while browsing around......... and im sure its been covered........ but............

wouldnt it be possible to create higher security deadbolts by using something similar to transponders used in cars? like, just in principle, if there was an electronic chip or something in your key, and then your deadbolt wouldnt open unless you had the proper key?

now, i see a lot of possibilities for trouble here....... but it would create higher security, which generally means any common lockie would end up drilling it if a lockout occurred...... though, if there was a universal restricted type of picking tool....... something that mimicked the chip thing.... so that you could simultaneously pick it open.

i dunno, just an idea that came to mind, and i thought i would share. im sure someone will post a nice link to this exact thing, or something and it will die along with the rest of the poopy threads......... oh well.

otherwise, how has your day been so far?

[keysman]

Try this http://www.videx.com/products/detail/cyberlock.html

[UWSDWF]

i use those at work

[Krypos]

kind of. i mean something like a regular key, and you could have the proper bitting, but if the keys transponder doesnt match the lock, then the key will wont turn or something.

like you need both to actually open it.

[Trip Doctor]

The digital monsters are taking over engineering .

[Eyes_Only]

You mean something like this? http://www.mul-t-lock.com/EngInner.aspx?itemId=3228

[Krypos]

You mean something like this? http://www.mul-t-lock.com/EngInner.aspx?itemId=3228

yeah, that looks right. lol.

[Jaakko]

Abloy CLIQ It uses Exec keys with a transponder chip and the battery to power the said chip and the lock itself is inside the key. This allows easy identification of the key used and provides also a possibility to use only mechanical Exec locks without the electronic part.

[keysman]

Medeco Siteline


http://www.medeco.com/products/products_detail.php?category_ID=32&

[Eyes_Only]

So thats what that is for. I saw just that key on eBay up for auction and I thought the seller was making thing up.

[Shrub]

The cliq system is great on paper but i thought i had heard theres problems and bugs with it or was it the cost of bits i cant remember,

I fully agree, i dont see the problem (other than cost of course both to the manufacturer and the consumer) on making a simple system where the proper key simply means an extra pin is retracted or somthing,

Perhaps theres so little money in fancy locks nowadays that its all commercial products that get the technolagy and in that instance they are quite well covered,

It is the way of the future though as the mechanical world is dying unfortunatley in most aspects of life,

[Marco]

though, if there was a universal restricted type of picking tool....... something that mimicked the chip thing.... so that you could simultaneously pick it open.

You mean there would be one tool which opened every single one of these locks? You'd better hope that tool would be VERY hard to use, or else if it fell into the wrong hands (which almost everything does) then that could be quite bad.

[Shrub]

Weve all got those tools Marco, your on one now, its the software on them that you dont want the unwashed to have

Again thats the thing, would people trust them? i certainly do not trust anything thats electric, its either trying to cut my fingers off or locking me out of somthing, nah this electricity thing wiull never catch on

Seriously though with the hackers out there that claim to get to the defence sysatem controls is any lock secure that uses electronics?

Please note, the above questions are rhetorical (is that the word?) in that i am not rally asking and the answers are not for this thread, i was merely philosifying,

[Krypos]

though, if there was a universal restricted type of picking tool....... something that mimicked the chip thing.... so that you could simultaneously pick it open.

You mean there would be one tool which opened every single one of these locks? You'd better hope that tool would be VERY hard to use, or else if it fell into the wrong hands (which almost everything does) then that could be quite bad.

no i mean it wouldnt open them, but it would render the transponder half open, and then it would just be a normal pin tumbler lock.

[Raccoon]

It's one thing to require a computer/electrical/radio transponder key to operate a motor vehicle or other electric dependent system. But homes are not electric dependent... you cannot rely on the presence of electricity over your security or safety.

Example: Say you go out to your car to bring in groceries. It begins to pour and the power goes out. Now you're stuck outside until power is restored, and your buns are getting soggy. Or you run for some fried chicken and the power goes out, and now you're stranded with soggy breasts and thighs.

I could go on... but I think my point is clear. Mechanical isn't going anywhere so long as Electrical is not wholly and completely reliable.