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by **zeke79** » 26 Jul 2007 14:44

It took me a little while to pick it the first time guys. I think it was 15-20 minutes first go around. Once you get the feel of it though it gets easier.

The flaw is NOT on or in the locking mechanism itself. Think outside the box and not so much like a lockpicker.

by **blake1803** » 5 Aug 2007 17:29

Could someone who has bought this lock from Home Depot be so kind as to post the part/model #? I took a look around and couldn't find it in the store... I suppose it was possible they just hadn't arrived yet, though.

by **Eyes_Only** » 5 Aug 2007 18:02

I'm not quite sure if this is the part number but I found it on the bottom of the box, 980 3 SMT CP K4.

by **blake1803** » 5 Aug 2007 20:08

Thanks! That should help next time I head over

by **Squelchtone** » 8 Aug 2007 23:16

Gentlemen, Behold!

Enjoy,
Squelchtone

by **Squelchtone** » 8 Aug 2007 23:43

oh god.

I just found the smartkey flaw.

wow.

that's scary how easy it is to get past this lock.

Zeke, check your PM.

Squelchtone

by **Isakill** » 8 Aug 2007 23:55

according to what I see on the box the "smart key" is used to change the key combination?
looks like a flaw to me. but I don't know fully how the system works to understand it.

by **Jaakko** » 9 Aug 2007 7:05

How much would it cost if someone bought the lock squelctone has now and shipped it to Finland?

by **Schuyler** » 9 Aug 2007 8:41

People have consistently stated that the change operation is NOT where the flaw lies.

As I said in my talk at DEFCON - "This lock has a fairly serious DE flaw, but then, as someone in the speaker green room mentioned, so does glass."

This lock, and this concept of design, absolutely has my support. I only hope that this is an iterative process for this company and this direction in the industry.

by **copeman** » 9 Aug 2007 18:58

so if i understand this is partly a cheaply made rip off of a u change lock?

by **Gordon Airporte** » 9 Aug 2007 19:48

squelchtone wrote:oh god.

I just found the smartkey flaw.

wow.

that's scary how easy it is to get past this lock.

lol. 30 minutes after he posts the box being open. Classic.

by **zeke79** » 10 Aug 2007 0:36

copeman wrote:so if i understand this is partly a cheaply made rip off of a u change lock?

This lock is absolutely nothing like a U Change lock. It has far far more in common with the lynx or rielda locks.

by **zeke79** » 10 Aug 2007 0:40

I have posted some breakdown pictures with explanations in this thread

viewtopic.php?t=19435&highlight=weiser .

The small wafers in the sidebar assembly function just like the lynx or rielda locks. The rest of the locking system is different though. This is actually a well thought out lock, the execution of putting it into production was flawed and a few big oversights were made.

by **n2oah** » 10 Aug 2007 1:30

I've seen the KwikCrap Smartkey on my local home depot shelves, and I might pick it up just to see the this fatal flaw that I am oblivious to.

by **blake1803** » 10 Aug 2007 2:12

Schuyler wrote:As I said in my talk at DEFCON - "This lock has a fairly serious DE flaw, but then, as someone in the speaker green room mentioned, so does glass."

Ha. But wait -- are you saying that the flaw in this lock that zeke and squelchtone have mentioned involves destructive methods? Or is that just another, separate flaw? I guess yes/no answers will suffice as to keep in line with forum rules

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