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Tough place to put tension wrench

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Tough place to put tension wrench

Postby Luke » 13 Jul 2003 19:52

Some locks i come accross i have the either of the following problems. The side i need to put the wrench into is very close to a wall, there for the wrench wont fit there. OR . The lock is very thin and i have problems getting the wrench and SOMTIMES the pick in the lock.
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Postby skeleton_keys » 17 Jul 2003 14:11

If you're too close to a wall to put the rake into the bottom of the keyway, you can always brace it in the top of the keyway, in front of the pins. You're still pulling it in the same direction you want the cylinder to turn, but now it's got room to move. This can be tricky, as your pick may accidentally knock the wrench out while raking, forcing you to start over again.

And when the keyway is really small or thin, you can buy special small tension wrenches that will fit just about any tiny keyway. Picks should never have a problem fitting in, as they're thinner than any key, but the keyway grooves may prevent it from moving up and down properly. Try tilting the pick (and your picking motion) at a sideways angle while raking to give you more room to move around the grooves.
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Postby Luke » 17 Jul 2003 16:23

all i can say is that, if that wrench isn't the right size - im buying a new one im gonna rob a lock smith :)
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Postby jason » 9 Aug 2003 17:34

I found that the metal bit in my wiper blades on my car can be bent nice and easily with pliers to make any profile turning tool - you can make a unique shape for each job and if you know a friendly mechanic you can get all the old wiper blades you need. I heard about this on my locksmiths course and when I lost a tool late one night the customer was a bit puzzled when I pulled the rear wiper off my car - got em in though!

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Postby skeleton_keys » 9 Aug 2003 19:07

Bail bond enforcement?
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Postby lockpickroy » 9 Aug 2003 20:16

would a Round (dial) Tension Tool work? has anyone in this forum used one ?
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Postby lockpickroy » 9 Aug 2003 20:19

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Postby CubanJJ99 » 10 Aug 2003 20:55

skeleton_keys wrote:Try tilting the pick (and your picking motion) at a sideways angle while raking to give you more room to move around the grooves.


Schlage keyways are like that. What i do for schlage is that i fit my normal sized tension wrench onto the very bottom of it. its not exactly in the keyway but like on the very tip on the bottom. Its pretty hard to explain. If someone could show me how to put pictures on the forum i can take a pic of it so you can see what i mean but theres like a part right at the bottom that you can put the tension wrench in like a vertical position. Only a real small peice will go inside but its enough to put slight pressure on it to set the pins and it also gives you more space in the keyway to move the pick around, specially when you have one of those combinations that go from a really small pin in the back to a huge pin in the front. OK that was a horrible explination. lol[/img]
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Postby CubanJJ99 » 10 Aug 2003 20:59

Hey skeleton keys, that sig is from family guy isnt it?? I could sware ive seen an episode with stewie on a plane saying that.
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Re: Tough place to put tension wrench

Postby bcholo21 » 15 Oct 2007 21:10

Luke wrote:Some locks i come accross i have the either of the following problems. The side i need to put the wrench into is very close to a wall, there for the wrench wont fit there. OR . The lock is very thin and i have problems getting the wrench and SOMTIMES the pick in the lock.

IF U ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE WALL GET A 612 TENSION WRENCH OR MAKE ONE BY TWISTING THE PART THAT GOES IN THE LOCK.HOPE THAT HELPED :D

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Postby Minion » 16 Oct 2007 7:51

any reason for the 4 year thread resurrection?

Or the caps lock?
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various tensors

Postby raimundo » 16 Oct 2007 10:10

I think you should have various tensors, they are extremly easy to make and you should sand the edges of them to prevent cutting into the cylinder wall,

Also, I anyone has access to a variety of small roller bearings, I would appreciate it if they would send me some of a size to fit in the bottm of various keyways, as a buffer and something to keep the tensor off the bottom of the keyway. One could even put two or three very thin ones in there to help position the lower edge of the tensor above the cylinder wall.

Thanks.
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Postby Kaotik » 16 Oct 2007 12:45

Ray, I have some leftover bearings from a few projects I was working on long ago. They measure: O.D. 27/32", I.D. 5/16.

I have quite a few, so if these will work, I would happily send you some. I can even take some pictures if you need to see them.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 16 Oct 2007 19:17

This is exactly why I only use the Peterson Pry Bar and the Flat 5 tension wrenches.
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Postby Raymond » 21 Oct 2007 0:41

Hey Luke,
Try this modified turning tool. The step sits on the bottom of the shell and helps hold the turning part in the best place.

[img]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb277/cookiebear7/100_0497.jpg[img]

When the wall is too close to the turning tool, then simply bend the handle of the turning tool at 90 degrees and carry on with your picking. Since I make all my turning tools from free streetsweeper brushes or windshield wiper reenforcement parts they are easy to replace. However, I have never broken one bending it as stated above. I have broken many trying to hold a lock turned while I insert a pin to remove a knob. This is just a necessary part of work and a cost of doing business.[/img]
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