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Screw-in Cylinders

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Screw-in Cylinders

Postby Daniel's Locksmiths » 29 Nov 2007 4:54

How do you remove A Mul-T screw in cylinder from a Hooked mortice lock case housed in an Aluminium door?

Many Thanks for your help.
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Re: Screw-in Cylinders

Postby gotta » 29 Nov 2007 8:52

Daniel's Locksmiths wrote:How do you remove A Mul-T screw in cylinder from a Hooked mortice lock case housed in an Aluminium door?

Many Thanks for your help.

If the edge of the door has a coverplate with 3 screws around the hook bolt and lock cylinder, remove the plate and there should be 2 screws or allen head in line with the lock cylinders/thumb-turn, whichever there is on the inside. Loosen the screw that lines up with cylinder you want to remove. Insert a key part way to use as a turn tool and carefully unscrew ccw the lock until it comes out. If it turns hard, loosen the two mounting screws so there some wiggle room. That's the most common style. In any event, look for a set screw that lines up with the cylinder on the edge of the door.
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like he said

Postby raimundo » 29 Nov 2007 10:01

Like gotta said, the cylinder 'set screw' is hidden under the cover plate on the edge of the door. I once saw some idiot trying to unscrew a mortise cylinder without knowing about the set screw. he put a pipe wrench on the cylinder, and it was amazing how far he got with brute force and stupidity. the set screw ploughed a wide grove in the threaded brass cylinder. about half way around the thing, then I came along and told him about that set screw. :P :lol:
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Postby globallockytoo » 29 Nov 2007 10:44

Does something strike you as a bit odd that a locksmith company would ask this sort of question?

Is this guy a locksmith because his name says so?

If he were a locksmith, would he need to ask such a question? It is far too common.
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Postby mrdan » 29 Nov 2007 10:59

I bit like a fireman asking what all the knobs and levers are for on the firetruck. I mean, we all know that they are fore the pinball machine that comes out the top of the truck. Man, I wish they would let me play some time. :cry: :wink: :roll:
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Postby Daniel's Locksmiths » 29 Nov 2007 15:33

globallockytoo...

The reason I'm asking is because I'm still learning and not done anything with screw-in cylinders and don't want to look an idiot to the customer....

Rather leave that for this place in front of all of you :-)
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Postby freakparade3 » 29 Nov 2007 15:53

Daniel's Locksmiths wrote:globallockytoo...

The reason I'm asking is because I'm still learning and not done anything with screw-in cylinders and don't want to look an idiot to the customer....

Rather leave that for this place in front of all of you :-)


Theres no such thing as a stupid question.
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Postby horsefeathers » 29 Nov 2007 17:18

freakparade3 wrote:
Theres no such thing as a stupid question.



Why?
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Postby kg4boj » 29 Nov 2007 18:55

horsefeathers wrote:
freakparade3 wrote:
Theres no such thing as a stupid question.



Why?



YOU SIR, Have asked a stupid question, seemingly only to prove it was possible.
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Postby toomush2drink » 29 Nov 2007 19:08

Oh dear oh dear not only does the op not know how to remove a cylinder but also seems to be unaware of copyright.

Rather than write his own copy for his website he has decided to cut and paste somebody elses site into his own :oops:

Worse still it still contains the NAME of the locksmith company hes nicked it from !!! (lockaid)

With so many idiots like this in the uk locksmith trade is it any wonder so many fail ?

Im sure the legal action will be fun for this particular person once the original writers of the copy become aware of his illegal activities.

Learn your trade and also learn about business before pinching articles from other peoples sites
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Postby horsefeathers » 30 Nov 2007 3:07

toomush2drink wrote:Worse still it still contains the NAME of the locksmith company hes nicked it from !!! (lockaid)



So it does!!! :shock:

I have had dealings with Lockaid (very bad payers imo), but agree that they dont seem to be the sort of people to take kindly to copyright theft. Unless of course they copied it from someone else's webpage!!!!! I have seen new locksmith's websites that look similar in style to my own, and although careful not to copy exactly my text, there are enough similarities to say that my pages influenced them. That said, you can only say similar things when describing insurance requirements for mortice locks for example.
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Postby chip » 1 Dec 2007 16:58

Got to get the spelling right too!!!

Daniel's Locsmiths.
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Postby Johnny P » 6 Dec 2007 4:20

This is the most common cmmercial re-key job a locksmith will get - At least here in the US. Darn near every store or shop has at least one of these type locks on their narrow stile aluminum door(s). probably even his own boss if he is working for another locksmith with a shop.

once saw some idiot trying to unscrew a mortise cylinder without knowing about the set screw. he put a pipe wrench on the cylinder, and it was amazing how far he got with brute force and stupidity. the set screw ploughed a wide grove in the threaded brass cylinder. about half way around the thing, then I came along and told him about that set screw.


Actually, this is one of the more common ways of breaking into stores and pharmacies and is the main reason cylinder guard rings are a big seller. About every 6 months or so we get a rash of break-in at small strip malls where the cylinder has been wrenched out in a matter of seconds, breaking the set screw and unscrewing the cylinder. Takes about 2 or 3 seconds. Then they just manipulate the locking mechanism with a screwdriver.

I've gotten calls at 2:30 in the morning from stores after their alarm lets them know they were broken into.

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Postby globallockytoo » 6 Dec 2007 12:51

Daniel's Locksmiths wrote:globallockytoo...

The reason I'm asking is because I'm still learning and not done anything with screw-in cylinders and don't want to look an idiot to the customer....

Rather leave that for this place in front of all of you :-)


Your site says you have many years experience. You obviously have NO EXPERIRENCE.

There are many guys who try to call themselves locksmiths, it is obvious to me that you are not one by you asking your original question. You are not only a fake but you are a liar too. If you had been in the trade many years, you would know the answer to that simple question already.

Do the whole industry a favor and get out. Leave it to a real TRAINED professional.

Or at least, take some training before claiming you are a locksmith.

You dont make just yourself look stupid but you bring down the entire industry.

Maybe you should go back to your normal job...that of being a septic tank cleaner. :P
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