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Is This a Strange Question to Ask About a Master #3?

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Is This a Strange Question to Ask About a Master #3?

Postby _ » 15 May 2008 20:28

Hey I was wondering if there was anywhere on the web I could get specs about the Master #3 Padlock. Part sizes and pin spacings would be good; blueprints would be better. Is there anywhere I can find what I'm looking for?
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Postby raimundo » 16 May 2008 11:02

No its not a strange question, on the other hand, I don't have your answer, but someone here will help you, or you could learn what you want to know by examining some keys and destroying some locks.
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Postby nemesis61 » 17 May 2008 1:31

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Postby keysman » 17 May 2008 1:51

Spaces;
M1 from the shoulder

1 0.185
2 0.311
3 0.437`
4 0.563
Depths
7 0.170
6 0.185
5 0.200
4 0.215
3 0.230
2 0.245
1 0.260
0 0.276
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Postby WOT » 17 May 2008 8:43

keysman wrote:Spaces;
M1 from the shoulder

1 0.185
2 0.311
3 0.437`
4 0.563
Depths
7 0.170
6 0.185
5 0.200
4 0.215
3 0.230
2 0.245
1 0.260
0 0.276

You may want to check that.

SPACE:
0.187 0.312 0.437 0.562

DEPTH
0 0.272
1 0.257
2 0.241
3 0.226
4 0.210
5 0.195
6 0.179
7 0.164
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Postby keysman » 17 May 2008 11:29

HMMMM..
thats interesting .. I copied my set from 2007 Instacode.. it looks like your's came from the Framon manual .. Just my opinion but the Framon manual is probably the most accurate.. good find !

I wonder if that is one of those " misprints" to see if they are stealing the info and reprinting ?

Either way .. the master M1 cylinders have a lot of slop , and either of the specs should work just fine .
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Postby _ » 17 May 2008 13:38

Thanks. You guys are all awesome. Just two questions:

1) Is there a way to get the pin diameter? I just need a rough figure.
2) Is there a way to get measurements of the plug? I need the length of the pin cavities (what are those called?).
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Postby WOT » 17 May 2008 19:07

keysman wrote:HMMMM..
thats interesting .. I copied my set from 2007 Instacode.. it looks like your's came from the Framon manual .. Just my opinion but the Framon manual is probably the most accurate.. good find !

I wonder if that is one of those " misprints" to see if they are stealing the info and reprinting ?

Either way .. the master M1 cylinders have a lot of slop , and either of the specs should work just fine .


Mine came from an official Masterlock factory publication
http://www.masterlock.com/commercial/ke ... ways.shtml
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Postby Kaotik » 18 May 2008 9:04

1) Is there a way to get the pin diameter? I just need a rough figure.
Yes, you would first need to disassemble the lock, take out the plug, pull the core out of the housing, remove the springs and pins, measure the pins with a micrometer.

2) Is there a way to get measurements of the plug? I need the length of the pin cavities (what are those called?).
once the plug is removed, measure it. Pin chambers.
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Postby assweasel » 22 May 2008 0:09

this is a link to masters Bitting Spec

http://www.masterlock.com/commercial/ke ... _pg_25.pdf
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