S&G 8077 Lost Combination

[ostranenie]

Hi,

I have an S&G 8077 combination padlock here and I screwed up when I was setting the combination. No idea what I did wrong (I've set these before with no trouble, honest, plus I thought I verified it before I finalized the change). The change key window on the back is closed, the slotted screw is set to 'closed' and nobody will 'legitimately' open the lock for me. (I talked to S&G who referred me to a specific S&G-approved locksmith, who in turn told me the same thing I read in the recovery guide: if that window isn't open, you have a useless lock.) My boss and I spent about 30 minutes trying to 'official' combination that I set (including on the change index as well as the dial index) but to no avail.

I've since bought a new one and set that one correctly, but now I have an extremely expensive padlock paperweight I read the reset/recovery instructions, but they say they require the window for the change key to be open before the combination can be reset or recovered, which is not the case here.

If anyone is interested in opening it for me through manipulation (X-Ray machine, anyone?) PM me and I'll either sell you the lock or you can reset it for me through your locksmithing kabuki and send it back for a fee. I have the change key and instruction book that comes with it.

Please don't respond back to this post with "that's !@#$% impossible, dude!" or "LOL call a locksmith!!1" because that's what I already figured - I understand that 99% of the time in real life if these were on a door or something, you'd just slice it off and buy a new lock, but it's just these are REALLY EXPENSIVE locks, I'm not rich and I want to exhaust all the possibilities before I throw it into the scrap heap. So if you're dying to learn how to crack an S&G 8077 for free without dropping the $50 on eBay (or the $400 on retail, OUCH), now is your opportunity!

Thanks!

brian

[freakparade3]

I'm sure Squelchtone will be by to help you. He's our resident authority on S&G padlocks.

[Squelchtone]

I'm sure Squelchtone will be by to help you. He's our resident authority on S&G padlocks.

Let us say I know enough. Nor sure if I can claim to be the resident authority, but thanks for the kind words.

Squelchtone

ostranenie: you have a PM.

[MacGnG1]

for those who dont know what this lock is....



http://www.sargentandgreenleaf.com/pdf/ ... 77_pad.pdf

[taylorgdl]

Is it possible that when you set the new code, you used a combination of both the opening index and the change index?

So part of the combo should be read using one line, and part on the other line.

Worth trying with all possibilities of your combo, e.g. 1st number read from change index, second, third numbers opening index, or first and second numbers change index, third number opening index etc etc

You've probably tried this, but if not, worth a shot.

[n2oah]

I hate to say it, but you're pretty much screwed if you don't know the combination. It's not like you can easily manipulate an 8077. Even if somebody could, it would be a waste of time.

[keysman]

I hate to say it, but you're pretty much screwed if you don't know the combination. It's not like you can easily manipulate an 8077. Even if somebody could, it would be a waste of time.

I have to agree with manipulation being about impossible, if I remember correctly that lock has delron wheels ...... not really possible for the novice or 1st time manipulator.

There is a way that requires a small amount of ( easily repaired) destructive entry.

This topic should really be in the advanced section for more details

[n2oah]

I have to agree with manipulation being about impossible, if I remember correctly that lock has delron wheels ...... not really possible for the novice or 1st time manipulator.

Acutally, the wheels are just brass. That doesn't really make it easier since the fence does not ride the wheel pack.

[ostranenie]

Is it possible that when you set the new code, you used a combination of both the opening index and the change index?

I followed the procedure in the book and covered the opening index with a piece of tape. I thought about that too, and we tried all sorts of things, none of which worked.

It's not like you can easily manipulate an 8077. Even if somebody could, it would be a waste of time.

True, I'd just as soon cut it open and replace it, but like I said it's an outrageously expensive lock, so I wanted to exhaust ALL possibilities.

Thanks for all your help!

[lunchb0x]

if you were going to sell it how much would you be after for it?

[n2oah]

True, I'd just as soon cut it open and replace it, but like I said it's an outrageously expensive lock, so I wanted to exhaust ALL possibilities.

How much did you pay for it? I got both of my 8077s for around $20.

[n2oah]

Just in case you're wondering what the wheels in the 8077 look like...

[ridinplugspinnaz]

Oh jeez, that's just too funny. Wonder what was like for that guy growing up...

[ostranenie]

Gay Power = much lulz and it's probably a female (Gay = Gabrielle/Gabriella).

I bought a replacement 8077 on eBay for $35 plus shipping. Where did you buy a $20 8077?? The MSRP is like $400!

[lunchb0x]

ostranenie, you have a PM