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Postby DiLate » 9 Aug 2004 3:41

Its about my 3rd day picking and i was at my friends house when he told me to try his patio deadbolt. I was able to get it but it took a bit longer than the kwiksets i have at home.. Im not certain what kind of lock it was but im pretty sure it said BIP on it (or BOP) anyone ever heard of it? how much more difficult would you consider it is from a kwikset deadbolt?

Thanks for your time
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Re: rank this lock

Postby logosys » 9 Aug 2004 3:57

DiLate wrote:Its about my 3rd day picking and i was at my friends house when he told me to try his patio deadbolt. I was able to get it but it took a bit longer than the kwiksets i have at home.. Im not certain what kind of lock it was but im pretty sure it said BIP on it (or BOP) anyone ever heard of it? how much more difficult would you consider it is from a kwikset deadbolt?

Thanks for your time


Never heard of a BIP or BOP (BOP = Blow Out Protector to me....)
Did it have the same style Keyway as the Kwiksets?
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Postby DiLate » 9 Aug 2004 4:03

yeah looked the same.. the keyhole was a bit tighter though not sure if it was the way the lock is or because its exposed to the outside.
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Postby logosys » 9 Aug 2004 4:12

DiLate wrote:yeah looked the same.. the keyhole was a bit tighter though not sure if it was the way the lock is or because its exposed to the outside.


Probably just because it was outside. Lock manufacturers stick to a few standard keyway designs so it's easy to buy blanks.

It was probably a Kwikset knockoff, that may have had 1-2 security pins, its tough to say. A few reasons it may have been more difficult:

1) Picking locks in doors can be strenuous on your body because your either leaning over or crouching. Either way, it's more uncomfy than sitting in a chair.

2) If it's exposed to the elements, stuff, scientifically known as "gunk", can build up in the keyway, or if it is a cheap lock, it can corrode slightly. This will lend itself to making the lock a little bit more difficult than you're used to.

3) You've never picked it before. Locks that you practice with at home, you get used to. You, perhaps subconsciously, memorize the pin configuration and it becomes magically easier to pick. That's why people pick one lock for 3 days can get it in 5 seconds, but if you give them another lock of the same type, it will take them a minute or two. That's why you should hoard locks and pick them all randomly.

Anyway, the more you pick, the more you'll get used to it. Hope this helps.
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Postby DiLate » 9 Aug 2004 4:17

great info thanks!!

Any chance theres a list of locks and difficulties around so I can get harder and harder locks as i go on?
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Postby logosys » 9 Aug 2004 4:41

DiLate wrote:great info thanks!!

Any chance theres a list of locks and difficulties around so I can get harder and harder locks as i go on?


Kwikset - 1
Master #3 - 1
Schlage - 2
Master #40 - 2
Kwikset with Spools (get some from a locksmith or Varajeal soon) - 3
Brinks Utility Lock (Lvl 2 security) - 3.5
Schlage with Spools - 4
<Intersperse some more security pins>
Brinks Shrouded Padlock - 5
Yale - 6

That should hold you for a while. Beyond this point, I'm not really qualified to speak...
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Postby WhiteHat » 9 Aug 2004 6:56

depends on the yale though... I've got an average size laminated yale that is no problems to open.
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Postby alias » 9 Aug 2004 9:13

Speaking of the Brinks Shrouded padlock, does anyone in Australia know of somewhere they sell 'em? I've done some googling and can't seem to find a distributor of Brinks locks anywhere downunder.

With all the talk about them lately, serrated and spools, it sounds like a fun lock to play with...
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