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Sargent & Greenleaf Inc Padlock 8088

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Sargent & Greenleaf Inc Padlock 8088

Postby digitalchaoss » 5 Nov 2007 17:07

Hi, this is not a post on how to crack the lock but more of a post of how much I love this lock, lol. I just started to work with these locks (work is in use t hem with in my job, not work as in tring to crack them) and when I first started to work with these locks it was a to open them because I was so used to the normal MASTER type lock...but now I love this lock and want to get some of my own.

And to Chucklz: You mention that the factory set is 10, 20, 30...I thought it was 25, 25, 25 for the S&G 8088 padlock. Correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks

http://i8.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/84/b6/f636_1.JPG (this is not me selling the lock just a picture I found of the locks I work with)
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8088 PADLOCK

Postby digitalchaoss » 5 Nov 2007 17:09

Ha Ha, sorry guys I just relized that topic was ancient...
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Re:

Postby bjkaufman » 15 Sep 2009 19:40

So what is this site for, if you can't can't help us out?


CaptHook wrote:Yep, but cant tell ya. Think of it this way, some things are difficult for a reason.
Chuck
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Re: Re:

Postby unlisted » 15 Sep 2009 20:38

bjkaufman wrote:So what is this site for, if you can't can't help us out?


CaptHook wrote:Yep, but cant tell ya. Think of it this way, some things are difficult for a reason.
Chuck


Considering that post was made in 2004, it really does NOT matter anymore.

Also, if you took the time to read ALL the replies before quoting that one, you would not need to ask said question.

I nominate using part of Romstars reply as the standard "n00b" response. Who is with me?
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Inc Padlock 8088

Postby Legion303 » 3 Dec 2009 16:58

digitalchaoss wrote:And to Chucklz: You mention that the factory set is 10, 20, 30...I thought it was 25, 25, 25 for the S&G 8088 padlock. Correct me if I am wrong.


Since we're raising the dead here, I'll correct this 2-year-old post. Default combo is 25-0 (dial left four times to 25, dial right until you hit 0, open shackle).

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Re: PADLOCK 8808 Sargent & greenleaf

Postby ElAbogado » 3 Dec 2009 21:16

lockmania wrote:I "cracked" the combination lock in 9 minutes with my own formula. I am insulted that one person on here thinks I am somekind of lock thief. I am an honest woman with good ethics!!!!


must have been set at "25" only to do it in 9 minutes...he he!
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Inc Padlock 8088

Postby locknpawn » 3 Dec 2009 22:14

cant give anyinfo on codes for a pad lock.. dont know who you are or what the lock goes on.. sorry.. but it look like someone else gave you the info you needed.. i would be careful to give combo's on lock here on this site
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Re:

Postby mh » 4 Dec 2009 0:50

hzatorsk wrote:By the way... given the specs... I don't believe this to be a Group 1 lock.

• 30 minute protection against expert manipulation


I believe this is slightly over-rated; I have achieved 25 min once out of 3 tries. Of course it depends on the combo, but I feel such ratings should reflect the minimum protection (for non-trivial combinations), not the average.

Cheers
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Inc Padlock 8088

Postby tballard » 4 Dec 2009 17:25

As long as we're resurrecting this thread, I'll add in some stuff:

I got two of these in the mail today, and there does appear to be some variation within the 8088 family. One lock is from the Nicholasville, KY plant, and one is from the Rochester, NY plant.

The Nicholasville lock:
  • more matte finish
  • visible retaining pins for the back plate at 9, 12, and 3 o'clock
  • change switch is silver
  • has a four letter code stamped into the shackle which can't be viewed unless the shackle is open.

The Rochester lock:
  • shiny finish
  • visible retaining pins for the back plate at 9 and 3 o'clock, and two descending vertically from the two corners
  • change switch is blued
  • no code on shackle
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Re: Re:

Postby Legion303 » 16 Dec 2009 8:55

mh wrote:
hzatorsk wrote:By the way... given the specs... I don't believe this to be a Group 1 lock.

• 30 minute protection against expert manipulation


I believe this is slightly over-rated; I have achieved 25 min once out of 3 tries. Of course it depends on the combo, but I feel such ratings should reflect the minimum protection (for non-trivial combinations), not the average.


I agree with hzatorsk; I just spent a lot of time trying to figure out what group these locks are in, and came up shorthanded except for this thread claiming they're group 1 and some New Zealand ebayer making the same claim...but Group 1 is rated at 20 HOURS of resistance to manipulation. So these must be Group 2.

The 8077AB selling on ebay right now is Group 1R, however, given the radiological resistance. I know the 8077 replaced the 8088 (thanks for counting backwards, S&G).

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Re: Re:

Postby Squelchtone » 16 Dec 2009 9:07

Legion303 wrote:(thanks for counting backwards, S&G).


:lol: best line ever. Thanks for making me laugh man.

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