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WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby sfi72 » 8 Sep 2009 19:29

How about Brakleen? Ive never tried it, but i imagine it would work well for cleaning out locks.
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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby ElbowMacaroni » 22 Sep 2009 0:00

Oooh Oooh Mr Kotta Mr Kotta! I know! It's because it's not WD-60!

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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby transformers0704 » 24 Sep 2009 20:04

WD40 Attracts lots of dust over time. You should try using CLP ( clean lubricate and protect) You can easily it on the web or wallysworld. CLP is also good for use on Firearms ect... also thats what the military use to clean there ar15. old skool trick i use to keep my locks running well is pencil lead (graphite).
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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby something_clever » 29 Sep 2009 12:09

I didn't read this entire thread so I apologize if someone has already pointed this out.

I learned this many years ago in Auto Shop after growing up believing that WD-40 was like duct tape... As in, it works for just about everything.

There are large differences between oils that are supposed to break things down and ones that are supposed to be a long term lubricant. The first is penetrating oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penetrating_oil), the second is oil-based lubricant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubricant). If a product is designed to be good at breaking bolts loose or unsticking something that's not moving properly it is a penetrating oil. If for lubrication, well that's self-explanatory.

No matter what a company's advertising department says, a product produced for one of these purposes will be almost useless for the other. If a product is designed to be good at both, it won't work very well for either. WD-40 is a penetrating oil... It works great for that. It is not however a lubricant, in fact it will have the opposite effect because of the residue. Please read the links above for an explanation of why.

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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby something_clever » 29 Sep 2009 12:12

Sorry, forgot to give my input as to the question... Man this is an old thread.

"Why is the WD-40 so bad?"

It's not, it's great. Just use if for it's intended purposes and you'll be fine. Just don't start thinking that it can do everything or it can/probably will make things worse. Not everything can be as lucky as duct tape.
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Postby kromedge » 14 Nov 2009 3:10

Securityman wrote:...for the CORRECT information on WD-40 i recomend you visit http://www.wd40.com/AboutUs/our_history.html .

WD-40 does not contain alcohol and does have lubricating qualities. It is non-flamable, and dries without depositing a tacky film like silicon or teflon lubes.

I don't even know why I care .....I do not own shares in the company and you can no longer use it as a blowtorch :)


If you don't think WD40 is flammable, then just check out this idiot spraying it through a butane lighter flame.

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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby Eyes_Only » 20 Nov 2009 20:27

sfi72 wrote:How about Brakleen? Ive never tried it, but i imagine it would work well for cleaning out locks.


I use that to clean lock parts that's removed from doors and in a little glass jar but if its still mounted it could really mess up paint jobs and anything plastic by the run off.

I usually use CRC Lectra Motive Cleaner. It looks just like the Barkleen can but it's intended for cleaning electronic components on cars like alternators. And it's much much milder than brake cleaner so it won't destroy paint jobs on front doors, car doors or eat up plastic. Just have a rag in hand to quickly pick up the run off as soon as it comes trickling out to avoid making a mess.

I used Lectra Motive cleaner all the time on cars to clean out car locks before decoding to make a key.
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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby lsphinx » 22 Apr 2010 6:11

For me the WD-40 is the best out there. I have a silicone based one the Pecol P 90 and I wouldn't dare to use it on a lock. What I know is this: WD40 "attacks" everything that is plastic. While a silicon based don't.
But a lock have no plastic on it's mechanisms so, no problem.

My opinion: WD-40 is the best to clean, and to lubricate a lock and it is anti rust. It's relatively durable. It has such a spraying pressure that is ideal to a normal lock with all that holes and small mechanisms.
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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby amlwchlocksmiths » 22 Apr 2010 6:42

wd-40,i use this to free up locks.but i also make sure i oil them before i leave.if the lock is stiff i say wd-40 is ok to use because it is fast working,but you have to remember to oil it afterwards because it soon drys up.my dad also useis it in the garage on cars but he always oils afterwards.
just my veiw.
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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby lsphinx » 22 Apr 2010 6:58

wd-40,i use this to free up locks.but i also make sure i oil them before i leave.if the lock is stiff i say wd-40 is ok to use because it is fast working,but you have to remember to oil it afterwards because it soon drys up.my dad also useis it in the garage on cars but he always oils afterwards.
just my veiw.
wd-40,i use this to free up locks.but i also make sure i oil them before i leave.if the lock is stiff i say wd-40 is ok to use because it is fast working,but you have to remember to oil it afterwards because it soon drys up.my dad also useis it in the garage on cars but he always oils afterwards.
just my veiw.


Absolutely amlwchlocksmiths, totally agree with you!
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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby globallockytoo » 23 Apr 2010 2:17

WD-40, while being designed to remove or displace water (or water based products) is technologically designed to offer a temporary effect.

Oiling after applying it, doesnt remove the WD-40 effect. And not using a high or low temperature additive, that directly counteracts the WD-40 effect, can difuse the intended effect of WD-40 in the process.

While you might receive accolades for solving a customers problem, you will more likely create potential longer term problems (for which you might be called back to rectify - at your borne cost)

This is expressly why Teflon is such a brilliant product. I use a product called Pro-Magic (with teflon), it is not sold retail and is manufactured in Chesterfield, Missouri. AFAIK, the product does wonders for most lubrication requirements and is able to withstand most varying temperature applications.
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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby amlwchlocksmiths » 23 Apr 2010 6:09

globallockytoo wrote:
Oiling after applying it, doesnt remove the WD-40 effect. And not using a high or low temperature additive, that directly counteracts the WD-40 effect, can difuse the intended effect of WD-40 in the process.



iv always oiled after using wd-40 on my own locks and everyone elseis and i have never had any one conplain.
as i said in my last post,i only use it if the lock is tite and dosent move easy otherwise i dont use it.and i only oil the lock after iv picked it.
so that means i do use it for the intended effect.
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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby globallockytoo » 26 Apr 2010 21:54

amlwchlocksmiths wrote:
globallockytoo wrote:
Oiling after applying it, doesnt remove the WD-40 effect. And not using a high or low temperature additive, that directly counteracts the WD-40 effect, can difuse the intended effect of WD-40 in the process.



iv always oiled after using wd-40 on my own locks and everyone elseis and i have never had any one conplain.
as i said in my last post,i only use it if the lock is tite and dosent move easy otherwise i dont use it.and i only oil the lock after iv picked it.
so that means i do use it for the intended effect.


What kind of oil are you using? Singer sewing machine oil?
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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby lsphinx » 1 May 2010 16:41

globallockytoo wrote:
amlwchlocksmiths wrote:
globallockytoo wrote:
Oiling after applying it, doesnt remove the WD-40 effect. And not using a high or low temperature additive, that directly counteracts the WD-40 effect, can difuse the intended effect of WD-40 in the process.



iv always oiled after using wd-40 on my own locks and everyone elseis and i have never had any one conplain.
as i said in my last post,i only use it if the lock is tite and dosent move easy otherwise i dont use it.and i only oil the lock after iv picked it.
so that means i do use it for the intended effect.


What kind of oil are you using? Singer sewing machine oil?


I'm curious :) is singer sewing machine oil good or bad? I mean, the way you put the question, I can't understand if you're trying to say that sewing machine oil is good or not :)
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Re: WHY IS THE WD-40 SO BAD?

Postby amlwchlocksmiths » 1 May 2010 16:56

lsphinx wrote:
globallockytoo wrote:


What kind of oil are you using? Singer sewing machine oil?


I'm curious :) is singer sewing machine oil good or bad? I mean, the way you put the question, I can't understand if you're trying to say that sewing machine oil is good or not :)


well i can tell you now i dont use it,i think it was a trick question to see if i know what i was talking about witch is why i have not answered it.i have never heard of useing it before.i may be wrong so sorry if its any good.but as i say im self trained and only use the oil where i buy my stock.
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