Sargent & Greenleaf Padlock

[lock2006]

I got this lock from my cousin with no keys
this padlocks are not easy to pick open.
I just going to try and see if i get lucky and open this beast heavy lock
i will need to a new cylinder for this padlock.

[Squelchtone]

I got this lock from my cousin with no keys
this padlocks are not easy to pick open.
I just going to try and see if i get lucky and open this beast heavy lock
i will need to a new cylinder for this padlock.

You won't need a new cylinder. You need me to sell you a key for it, and then you take that key and have your local medeco locksmith repin the cylinder so the key works. Don't ask me to pick it, I just got done with Unlisted's and it was a pain in the butt.

PM me and I'll send you a link where you could buy a non military commercial medeco cylinder with keys to that lock for around $60.

nice lock btw, I love S&G padlocks!

Squelchtone

[lock2006]

Thank you for your info squelchtone
i really appreciated.

[pjzstones]

wish i owned that lock

[Squelchtone]

wish i owned that lock

its easy. go on ebay, there are several for sale right now.

look up 831 padlock, high security padlock, sargent ingersoll, or sargent greenleaf. look up 833 padlock if you have lots of money.

Squelchtone

[pjzstones]

yeah i'm familiar with these locks. they are just out of my price range right now but i hope to get one eventually.

[lock2006]

Yea that's right if you have lots of money
or the right price range.

[ElAbogado]

wish i owned that lock

its easy. go on ebay, there are several for sale right now.

look up 831 padlock, high security padlock, sargent ingersoll, or sargent greenleaf. look up 833 padlock if you have lots of money.

Squelchtone

I had one of those marked "US" with two keys and the control key, NIB. They sell new for around $500-600. There is no problem using a medeco AIR cylinder in them, or even a modified schlage if you want to key it into an existing system. The problem I had was that the shackle was so huge and odd shaped that I couldn't use it for anything at all. Last week I gave it to a friend who is studying locksmithing and he was really pleased.

El Abogado

[Squelchtone]

wish i owned that lock

its easy. go on ebay, there are several for sale right now.

look up 831 padlock, high security padlock, sargent ingersoll, or sargent greenleaf. look up 833 padlock if you have lots of money.

Squelchtone

I had one of those marked "US" with two keys and the control key, NIB. They sell new for around $500-600. There is no problem using a medeco AIR cylinder in them, or even a modified schlage if you want to key it into an existing system. The problem I had was that the shackle was so huge and odd shaped that I couldn't use it for anything at all. Last week I gave it to a friend who is studying locksmithing and he was really pleased.

El Abogado

wait, I like your other posts and know you know your stuff, but I have to disagree on the AIR cylinder, the back of the plug is not milled properly to fit into the cam/bolt unless you heavily modify a plug that is already "close enough" or you tap the cam/bolt and permanently attach the cam/bolt to the back of the medeco cylinder. The other thing I don't think is accurate is the price tag.. an S&G 831B just sold for $114 on ebay, and yes there is a guy TRYING to sell one new in box for like $500 but so far nobody has been that foolish. An 833 just sold for that much, but we all know those are newer, fancier and rare compared to the 3 to 5 831Bs on ebay every month.

A few months ago I sold my new in box 831BM1 for something like $300 and that was pretty much what the market could bare. I know to some people having a box, paperwork, baggie, and an unscratched padlock adds to the value, for me the cheapest 831 I ever got was $9.00 with 1 key, and the key was stuck and would not turn, but enough WD40 and other chemicals helped it out. I threw in a new cylinder and keys I bought for $20 from a nice lady who had about 15 new mil cylinders and I had a fully working 831.

hope you dont mind my post, I very much respect your other posts since you joined the forum, but I just deal with these locks more than most folks, so I've been following prices and trends for a couple years now.

Squelchtone

[lock2006]

I wish i can find one for $9.00 with 1 key.

[ElAbogado]

wait, I like your other posts and know you know your stuff, but I have to disagree on the AIR cylinder, the back of the plug is not milled properly to fit into the cam/bolt unless you heavily modify a plug that is already "close enough" or you tap the cam/bolt and permanently attach the cam/bolt to the back of the medeco cylinder. The other thing I don't think is accurate is the price tag.. an S&G 831B just sold for $114 on ebay, and yes there is a guy TRYING to sell one new in box for like $500 but so far nobody has been that foolish. An 833 just sold for that much, but we all know those are newer, fancier and rare compared to the 3 to 5 831Bs on ebay every month.

A few months ago I sold my new in box 831BM1 for something like $300 and that was pretty much what the market could bare. I know to some people having a box, paperwork, baggie, and an unscratched padlock adds to the value, for me the cheapest 831 I ever got was $9.00 with 1 key, and the key was stuck and would not turn, but enough WD40 and other chemicals helped it out. I threw in a new cylinder and keys I bought for $20 from a nice lady who had about 15 new mil cylinders and I had a fully working 831.

hope you dont mind my post, I very much respect your other posts since you joined the forum, but I just deal with these locks more than most folks, so I've been following prices and trends for a couple years now.

Squelchtone

You are right about eBay prices, they are low now on just about everything. If you look up the NSN (National Stock Number--formerly FSN, Federal Stock Number) you will see just how much Uncle paid for these locks. Additionally, a civilian version was made for a while that did not have the US Markings, and I recall it was over $500.00 back then.

As for the eBay prices, I am enjoying stocking my supplies and locksmith tools for pennies on the dollar. New American padlocks for $2.00 each in the box, a LAB Annex new for $77.00, new Best IC cores, 7 pin for $2.00 etc.

I do recall changing one of these padlocks to an air cylinder back in the 80's, it wasn't than hard then and required a minimum of machining.

BTW, thanks for the compliment about the posts, I might add that your posts are also informative and I feel we need more involved and educated members like yourself. Keep up the good work.

I'll try to post a few pictures of the lock I just gave away on this forum in the near future

El Abogado

[dmux]

I did look an 831 up on fedlog and it came back with 200$. anyone have the 833 NSN

[Squelchtone]

I did look an 831 up on fedlog and it came back with 200$. anyone have the 833 NSN

831B/831B-M-1 was 5340-01-188-1560

833C is/was 5340-01-217-5068 and has been changed to 5340-01-510-2351

951 took the 833C NSN of 5340-01-217-5068


Squelchtone

[dmux]

Pretty much all the old ones are obsolete in fedlog and only the newest one is listed NSN 5340-01-217-5068

FSC: 5340
NIIN: 012175068
CANCELLED NIIN: 011881560
ITEM NAME: PADLOCK



ARMY MASTER DATA FILE (AMDF) FSC NOMENCLATURE ACT ADDL SOS AAC PSC ARMY
UNIT
PRICE UI FC UM MEAS
QTY EIC EC
5340 PADLOCK C SMS D $645.48 EA A

army pays that much for it