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Best Locks

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Re: Best Locks

Postby FreyGrimrod » 15 Nov 2010 12:36

So I understand the Bi-Lock now....

but can anyone confirm my suspicions as to why BEST cores are considered hard to "bump" is it the 7pins and two shear lines? Or also considered to have tight tolerances?
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Re: Best Locks

Postby globallockytoo » 15 Nov 2010 21:36

vov35 wrote:What has bilock done that the b&s GM ignition lock didn't do a half century before? (as far as mechanism + security, not application)


The discussion regarding auto locks is an advanced topic requiring access to the advanced section of the forum.

As far as security, the Bilock far outstrips the GM lock in quality, design, purpose and security. They are completely different mechanism designs and operate completely differently.
One One was a race horse, one one won one race, one two was a racehorse, one two won one too.

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Re: Best Locks

Postby vov35 » 16 Nov 2010 15:38

globallockytoo wrote:
vov35 wrote:What has bilock done that the b&s GM ignition lock didn't do a half century before? (as far as mechanism + security, not application)


The discussion regarding auto locks is an advanced topic requiring access to the advanced section of the forum.

As far as security, the Bilock far outstrips the GM lock in quality, design, purpose and security. They are completely different mechanism designs and operate completely differently.


As is bilock as a high security lock. -__-
I'm trying to understand the mechanical difference, not how to pick them.
from every diagram I've seen it looks like the bilock is just the briggs and stratton sidebar lock with two sets of pins and two sidebars...
The BiLock isn't the first bump proof pin tumbler because it isn't a pin tumbler.
And it's called a shear line, not a "sheerline".
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Re: Best Locks

Postby gswimfrk » 13 Dec 2010 2:24

Thanks for all the help guys!!
I don't like bilock because none of my local locksmiths are familiar with what it is. =/
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Re: Best Locks

Postby globallockytoo » 13 Dec 2010 18:39

gswimfrk wrote:Thanks for all the help guys!!
I don't like bilock because none of my local locksmiths are familiar with what it is. =/



Fair comment.

Just because the local's have no idea, doesnt mean it is a bad product, just that the locals are not as open minded.

In some ways the fact that the locals have a hard time with it, could be considered a plus factor. You will never have unknowing people trying to stuff it up. :lol:
One One was a race horse, one one won one race, one two was a racehorse, one two won one too.

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Re: Best Locks

Postby globallockytoo » 13 Dec 2010 18:42

vov35 wrote:
globallockytoo wrote:
vov35 wrote:What has bilock done that the b&s GM ignition lock didn't do a half century before? (as far as mechanism + security, not application)


The discussion regarding auto locks is an advanced topic requiring access to the advanced section of the forum.

As far as security, the Bilock far outstrips the GM lock in quality, design, purpose and security. They are completely different mechanism designs and operate completely differently.


As is bilock as a high security lock. -__-
I'm trying to understand the mechanical difference, not how to pick them.
from every diagram I've seen it looks like the bilock is just the briggs and stratton sidebar lock with two sets of pins and two sidebars...


The B&S is a wafer tumbler lock for starters. It uses a totally die cast housing, cylinder etc. The wafers are brass.

Bilock is constructed from quality precision parts (not too disimilar from the GM lock principle) but does not use any die cast parts.
One One was a race horse, one one won one race, one two was a racehorse, one two won one too.

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Re: Best Locks

Postby thelockpickkid » 13 Dec 2010 20:32

gswimfrk wrote:Thanks for all the help guys!!
I don't like bilock because none of my local locksmiths are familiar with what it is. =/


I think bilock is a pretty cool lock, I don't know why I don't see any locksmiths around here that deal with them, TNL ran an article on how easy they are to duplicate and it doesn't seem too hard to me. They are made very well, they wouldn't be hard to sell.
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Re: Best Locks

Postby gswimfrk » 18 Dec 2010 4:34

Yeah they seem to be made well but I do not like the keys. I have this weird thing... if a key has a plastic head I will think its not durable. And I have done some research, there are almost no people who service bilocks in my area =/
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