Member-submitted Lock Photo Links

[Oldfast]

Not nearly as sexy as the other pics, but this padlock brings fond memories, for it was my first "real" challenge.
I remember taking this apart and spotting those hybrids........... like a kid on Christmas morning!

I'm assuming it's an American that "Ace Hardware" is allowed to stamp their name on. Maybe someone could explain?

lock and key http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l50 ... st/160.jpg
disassembled http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l50 ... CKS151.jpg
key and pins http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l50 ... CKS149.jpg

[shortlineflyer]

here are some photos of some of my locks.
I know the brands of the locks but I do not know the specific models of the locks.
I would really appreciate it if anyone can give me information on these locks

https://picasaweb.google.com/106549900551

[Oldfast]

Shortlineflyer- might just be my computer, but the link to your pictures brings up an "error" page.

[Oldfast]

So here's the insides of a Master 141 (40mm). pjzstones posted these pics last year viewtopic.php?p=354921#p354921
but it's interesting to see the same lock, one year later, now filled with nothing but security pins ( 1-serrated / 3-spools ).





Several things worth noting. The body of the lock serves as the bible, housing the springs and drivers. This is a four pin lock,
but you'll notice a fifth chamber with a pin in it. This is not a pin, rather, it works in conjunction with the slot that's been
milled out of the side of the plug; this way the plug is only allowed to turn from 12:00 - 2:00. The pin is not long enough to
protrude into the keyway, but you'll feel the hole it sets in if you put your pick just behind the last pin.

Something else I noticed right away is this small pin at the back of the plug, running diagnally across the keyway. The purpose
behind this; an attempt to keep someone (or people like us ) from directly manipulating the latches that lock the shakle in place.



Anyway, thought I'd share my findings and maybe even save some poor 141 that might have otherwise became a canidate for surgery

[Oldfast]

MASTER 140
Thought some people just getting started on these might like to see inside.




Basically identical to the 141, just a little less sloppy. Any of the more recent models will have the small pin
in the back of the plug running diagnally across the keyway to restrict access to the latching mechanisms.

You can expect the same type/arrangement of pins in any of the other brass numbers ( + or - one spool ).
In my experience, the serrated pin in any of the brass numbers from Master has ALWAYS been in position 1.
TIP: Often times the one serrated pin is going to bind first, but is not always necessarily the first to be set.

[Doctor Hexagon]

@Oldfast

Thanks a lot for posting pics of that No.140. I've had several of those sitting around for a while and I recommend them
to beginners looking for a more challenging padlock that still aren't something as difficult as an a good American or a Brinks
clone. I knew there had to be security pin in the from the feedback I get from all 3 of the ones I own, but several other
members have sworn up and down (perhaps old posts) that the No.140 has -never- had security pins in them.

It's nice to have visual evidence that I'm not bonkers

[Oldfast]

Glad it helped! Yea, I was pretty sure I was'nt "bonkers" either, but was never able to actually confirm this visually. Granted, it's not a fully serrrated pin from top to bottom, but it is serrated. Funny how Master is now utilizing security pins in locks that previously had none. But, at the same time putting standard pins in locks that use to be filled with spools (ie. 930) viewtopic.php?p=376887#p376887

[Oldfast]

I'm going to begin documenting locks as I pick them and post them here. Since I'm a beginner, none of these will be exotic, high-end, hard-to-find locks. So hopefully these will possibly help others that may currently be at this level of picking. Personally, I like to scan through pics quickly, so I'm going to downsize the photos and post them as images. Mods, please let me know if you'd rather me post links to the photos.

AmericanLock Series 5200 US

Application: I'm told the US military use these almost exclusively.



Key retaining, 5 pins: 3-serrated 2-hybrids, serrated keypins



Now, take a look at those pins and tell me that's not the sexiest thing you've seen today. lol

[Oldfast]

ABUS 71/40 LOCKOUT

Generally geared toward electrical applications; the body is a nonconductive material made from fiber-glass reinforced nylon.



Key retaining, 6 pins......1-standard, 5-spools



Fun pick! If you see one, buy it.
For disassembling, I recommend having the lock up-side-down when removing the core.
This way you won't loose the bolt driver and the two ball bearings on either side of it
(kind of a pain to get them positioned back in correctly).

[Oldfast]

AmericanLock Series 1100



non-key-retaining, 5 pins.....3-hybrid spools 2-serrated, serrated keypins

[Oldfast]

Master 532



Two retaining pins must be drilled out to get to the pins: One holds the core in the lock. Once the core
is removed from the lock, another must be drilled in order to remove the plug from its' housing.

*Learn from my stupidity- When removing the plug, be sure to rotate CCW prior to pulling it out. Otherwise the drivers and springs
will fall into the milling that works in conjunction with the retaining pin. One spring gave his life...so that others may live. lol



non-key-retaining, 5 pins.....4-spools, 1-standard, beveled keypins

[chriswingate]

RR Brink mogul master ring prison cylinder.

Picture of the core/master ring, the mortise cylinder with a standard for comparison and core operating key. There are two keys, one operates the core, one operates the master ring around the core.


Picture of the guts, each chamber has a ball bearing as you can see, bottom pins on top of that, some rather large master pins followed by graduated spools with a pretty mean lip on them. You can also see that it is a balanced stack.

[Oldfast]

Nice Chris. That MOGUL is a piece of work. Beautiful addition!

[Oldfast]

MASTER 911


Had a pleasant surprise when I gutted this one and found all 5 drivers to be spools.



Oldfast911 vs. Master911... Oldfast scored a knockout a little ways into the 1st round. lol

[MrRusswarez]

ASSA SCD 701
Counter milling in the plug chamber 1,2,4 and 6.
Bottom pin 2 and 3 are extra hardened with steel core as well the top pin 3 and 5.


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