turning deadbolts.

[Leuk]

Hello Guys

I've been picking for a while now and have a few practice locks and a couple yale padlocks to practice on, but I must admit I started by trying to pick the lock on my room door. I'm not very far along, but think I understand the basics. (I've read Deviant Ollam's book, but that's about it)

Even after learning the golden rule of not picking locks I depend on (not that I really depend on it, I suppose. This is the door to my room, not my house.), I still occasionally turn to door's lock. Here's the question:

I can turn the plug no problem, but this doesn't seem to engage the bolt. I.e. - The plug rotates, but bolt doesn't move.
All I know about the lock is that it's a union and is stamped with ap 158 in the front.

Any replies would be appreciated =)

P.S. - Hope this is right place for this question.

[MrScruff]

Have you tried turning it the other direction?

[raimundo]

Do you have a key, this should help you understand the direction and the amount of force, is it a euro with interior cylinder as well as external cylinder? if so and the key is in the inside, the outer cylinder may not even be able to move the cam
If you have a lock that is hard to turn, because moisture swelled the wood of the door or the building settling into the ground has twisted the door frame to make it tight or loose hinge screws are allowing the door to droop and rest its weight on the bolt

If its turning but stiff, don't wreck a tension bar, use a small straight blade screwdriver to haul on that bolt after the plug is turning and obviously picked.

[Leuk]

Hi McScruff
Actually, no, because I turn it the way my key turns it. I will try again and see what effect it has.

Hi raimundo
I'm not having difficulty turning the plug. That turns very nicely. It's just that I can turn it 360 degrees and nothing happens.
When you say interior and exterior cylinders you mean mean if I can put in keys on both sides of the door right?
This one is to a bedroom, so only has an exterior cylinder (on the inside is a knob to be turned)

P.S. - I'm sure you've heard this many times but, Thank you for bogatas... They're awesome.

[Evan]

Hi McScruff
Actually, no, because I turn it the way my key turns it. I will try again and see what effect it has.

Hi raimundo
I'm not having difficulty turning the plug. That turns very nicely. It's just that I can turn it 360 degrees and nothing happens.
When you say interior and exterior cylinders you mean mean if I can put in keys on both sides of the door right?
This one is to a bedroom, so only has an exterior cylinder (on the inside is a knob to be turned)

P.S. - I'm sure you've heard this many times but, Thank you for bogatas... They're awesome.

@Leuk:

It sounds like you are dealing with a Euro cylinder and aren't engaging the cam... The tip of the key engages the cam in a Euro cylinder, raimundo was asking if it was a double cylinder Euro because leaving a key in the inside cylinder in a double Euro lock will usually make the exterior cylinder inoperative...

~~ Evan

[Leuk]

Hi Evan
Ah, ok. Then I'm pretty sure the set up is a euro single cylinder. So this means there's no way to get it to turn?

[Evan]

Hi Evan
Ah, ok. Then I'm pretty sure the set up is a euro single cylinder. So this means there's no way to get it to turn?

@Leuk:

Once you pick the lock, but before you turn it more than a tiny bit you need something (a pick, long slim tension tool, wire, etc) to poke out the back of the keyway like the normal key would to engage the cam...

~~ Evan