Ah yes, i understand the expanding and contracting thing. Just didnt know it would speed up the process that fast

. Ill be using my stove, but i cant do it until i buy some replacement springs :s . I dont wanna waste my only lock lol. Well only one that i can pick at that. I have 1 padlock which i can pick, no brand. 2 of the same lock wood locks which were used for security at my dads work and 2 bi-locks (advanced! i wanna get into that section >_< I gotta start being more useful) which are also from my dads work. I havent been successful , but im thinking of doing the heat -> cool process with one of my lockwoods and can study it and practise on my other one. However, on the back of the lock, there is a small plate which is connected to the cylinder. I tried unscrewing it but that totally stuffed up the screws. Using a screwdriver, well....to cut it short, the former phillip heads are now circles

. I think ill try drilling the screws till the plate can be removed, and hopefully i can just remove the cylinder from the back.