silca sbb any good?

[lockjock50]

i have used the mvp, mvp pro, and ngs to program transponder keys.
i have a chance to buy a silca sbb from a retiring locksmith and wanted to know if anyone has used it and how does it compare in programming.
does it program as easy? is it expensive to use? is $800 a good price? any feed back would be great thanks. i actually havent looked up any info on it yet. he said when his father had the business, he liked it better than the mvp but the mvp has sold already with 80 tokens.

[Wizer]

I have SBB, and have used it maybe 50-100 times in past few years.
The new cloners can program more and more keys in the shop, and some cars you just need to go "snoop" with a chip to progam them.
So SBB gets less use as I upgrade machines and softwares.
I don´t know the cloners that you have, so maybe there is still much use for programming via OBD.
Then limited experience I have with SBB has tought me to not expect success every time. Maybe one out of 4 cars I try to program have some issue with it. Wrong pin code, no OBD socket, communication error...
Is $800 a good price? Again, I dopn´t know your scene, but here it would depend much on the program version that it carries. Is it all open, or do you need tokens for CAN-BUS? Can you upgrade the program? Considering other programmers out there I would say $800 is a bit much, but if its with best software and its pretty new (maybe with the additional cables), the deal could be OK.
And lastly a word of warning, check that its real. The Chinese version looks just like the real deal, with right stickers on it and all. On the one I saw, only thing that told it was fake was "Taiwan" stampen right under the sticker that said MADE IN ITALY.

[2octops]

The SBB is the Chinese knock off of the Silca SDD machine.

These are basically blackmarket machines that were produced with software stolen from the original producer.

You will never be able to update it. You will never be able to get it repaired. There is absolutely no tech support for these machines. I've never seen one that would program a Chrysler product because of a software glitch when they originally copied the software from the original manufacturer. Lots of people have lots of problems with cold solder spots on chips on the boards on these machines. They sell new for about $110. Don't believe me, Google it!

They only want $800 for it?

[lockjock50]

Im not going to mess with it. I cant trust whether it will work or not. And if its not real i dont want it. Thanks for the input.

[lunchb0x]

SBB ( Silca Black Box) is legit, and yes there are the Chinese copies for around $100. The SBB isn't sold here in AUS but our supplier can get them in, for us I have been told it costs around $8,000 new, so half that and that is probably what you guys paid new for it. The SBB is also listed in Instacode. If I was offered an original one for under a grand I would be taking it, buuuuut, it really depends on it's condition and what they cost new over there.

The SDD I think was it's replacement.

http://www.silca.biz/en/search-page.jsp?query=sbb

[lunchb0x]

Im not going to mess with it. I cant trust whether it will work or not. And if its not real i dont want it. Thanks for the input.

Do you have the serial number from it? I thought that most of the Chinese ones had same serial numbers. Does the seller have a receipt for it?