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by daniel22747 » 17 Jun 2013 7:10
Just got three new American padlocks in the mail. It is interesting... once you know how to pick these guys they are not really that hard. They still take me longer than your average padlock, but overall they are not that hard any more.
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by seb0704 » 20 Jun 2013 16:13
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by GWiens2001 » 21 Jun 2013 6:58
Seb, Any way we can get a look at that dimple pick you are using? It looks interesting! Gordon
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by seb0704 » 21 Jun 2013 12:36
GWiens2001 wrote:Seb, Any way we can get a look at that dimple pick you are using? It looks interesting! Gordon
Hello Gordon That's picks produced by a french company. I think they are good made and very operational. I used to try to pick such locks with picks. However picks work if the locks is on a vice but are really not sucessfull on a door. Here a picture of that tool. [img] [IMG]http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r704/seb0704/eecf698d-aa92-4a87-b956-47c10a35c9d6_zpsb90b3c2d.jpg[/img][/img] I find these tools very easy to use. it's my opinion If wanted i can send you the link of youtube where this french company demostrate these dimple picks. Best regards
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by phrygianradar » 21 Jun 2013 12:48
seb0704 wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:Seb, Any way we can get a look at that dimple pick you are using? It looks interesting! Gordon
Hello Gordon That's picks produced by a french company. I think they are good made and very operational. I used to try to pick such locks with picks. However picks work if the locks is on a vice but are really not sucessfull on a door. Here a picture of that tool. [img] [IMG]http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r704/seb0704/eecf698d-aa92-4a87-b956-47c10a35c9d6_zpsb90b3c2d.jpg[/img][/img] I find these tools very easy to use. it's my opinion If wanted i can send you the link of youtube where this french company demostrate these dimple picks. Best regards
Thank you for sharing those pictures. That is a really interesting pick you have there! I have never seen that one before. 
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by ARF-GEF » 21 Jun 2013 13:28
It is very interesting! Thank you for posting Seb!  Why do you say it's not working so well when the lock is in a door?
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by seb0704 » 21 Jun 2013 15:41
ARF-GEF wrote:It is very interesting! Thank you for posting Seb!  Why do you say it's not working so well when the lock is in a door?
Hello ARF-GEF I said that picks asnormal picks for dimple locks. Theses picks are not easy to use on a dorr because it depends if it's a right hand or left hand and if you have got place to put picks in the locks. With this picks you don't have lines showing the pin location. http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00qC ... -1-13-.jpgWith these kind of picks you don't have this problem. You have a good tension tool (it's the key profile) and lines for pin location. The pick of these dimple pick is rotating and i think it's better for the feeling. here a sample http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8xalMPiVSMbest regards
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by fgarci03 » 28 Jun 2013 7:22
Picked my Corbin MasterRing for the first time today:  I'm not sure to which sheerline I picked it, and I will be trimming a little of the cam so I can look at it when I pick it
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by phrygianradar » 28 Jun 2013 8:52
@fgarci03: nice job on that Corbin! I have wanted one of those for a while... I got two Yale LFIC cylinders in the mail yesterday and they are both keyed alike, came with one operating key. I couldn't figure out how to get them out of the mortise shells... did a little research and figured out a way to do it. So I used a little insert, picked them right away, and got them out of their shells. They are pretty cool; when I get a little time I am going to gut them and take a look. I don't expect to see anything strange. I didn't feel any spools or special security measures, just a regular 6 pin lock, once I figured out how to get that last pin. 
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by fgarci03 » 28 Jun 2013 13:04
phrygianradar wrote:@fgarci03: nice job on that Corbin! I have wanted one of those for a while... I got two Yale LFIC cylinders in the mail yesterday and they are both keyed alike, came with one operating key. I couldn't figure out how to get them out of the mortise shells... did a little research and figured out a way to do it. So I used a little insert, picked them right away, and got them out of their shells. They are pretty cool; when I get a little time I am going to gut them and take a look. I don't expect to see anything strange. I didn't feel any spools or special security measures, just a regular 6 pin lock, once I figured out how to get that last pin. 
In my (very small) understanding of SFICs, they don't use security pins. They just rely on tolerances, bitting, and the dual sheerline thing. Not sure about the LFICs though...
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by GWiens2001 » 28 Jun 2013 15:11
There are spool pins for SFIC locks. As I understand it, some restricted keyways are even likely to have spool pins, but that may be due to a skilled locksmith putting them into the locks when they are combinated. Have a BEST SFIC padlock in my collection (WC keyway) that definitely has spools in it.
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by fgarci03 » 28 Jun 2013 15:19
I have been explained that just now I thought it was pretty rare. Good to know it then 
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by MrWizard » 30 Jun 2013 1:15
Spool pins are very rare to find in a interchangeable core lock as they are to use specific pin stack that has to figured for each one keyed to a system and you are not going to find proper length drivers for them. If they are in the lock you can bet it has generally been improperly pinned.
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by MrWizard » 30 Jun 2013 4:30
If the factory kit has spool pins in it they would in fact have to be proper length. I cannot make a statement that all interchangeable core locks with spool pins would have to be improperly pinned in that case. I have seen many that have been pinned incorrectly as some don't know the proper stack length and just puts in what will allow it to be capped. As someone informed me they have a new Arrow kit with spool pins for some lengths but not all so I stand corrected in that case. 
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by Taubin » 4 Jul 2013 22:00
Does the Super Maximum Security 7 Pin Easy Rekey Practice Lock from MrWizard count?  3 Pins Picked by taubinphoto, on Flickr
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