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Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby Onz » 2 Feb 2014 20:46

Always love your posts Gordon. This deepens my knowledge with warded locks.
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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby GWiens2001 » 2 Feb 2014 21:14

Glad I can help you learn, as so many others here help me to learn as well.

There is a common misconception that most of these old locks are warded, when many of them are lever locks. This picture is a different model, but works exactly the same way as the model 115 for which I made the key in this write-up. This is a lever lock.

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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby Squelchtone » 2 Feb 2014 21:29

I can see where the confusion is from.

There are wonderful computer drawings of a warded lock and key on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warded_lock

What you have there is basically a maze the key has to get through in order to rotate around and throw the bolt or pull down on the locking dog. If the cuts in the key match the maze of metal wards inside the lock, the key can turn without getting stuck.

I think I've heard these called "box of wards" keys before as well, which has a really nice ring to it.

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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby GWiens2001 » 3 Feb 2014 14:58

Here is an example of a warded padlock that also has a barrel type key. Made a key for it (modified a 'furniture' key, rather than making a key from scratch) this morning for a friend. It is my friend's lock, not mine.

Not doing a write-up on this lock, just adding pictures to the above lock write-up to clarify the lock types.

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If you look inside the keyway with a light, you can see a plate that has the wards on it. Unfortunately, the camera can not get close enough to see as much as your eye can see.

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Here is the finished key. It can be hard to tell of the lock is warded or lever by the key, either.

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If you are impressioning a key, when you turn the blank, it is easy to tell whether it is lever or warded.

A warded lock will stop the blank instantly when the wards are hit by the blank. There is no give at all.

A lever lock will have a slightly 'springy' feel when it stops the key. (Excuse the technical terminology).

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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby easy-e » 3 Feb 2014 17:37

GWiens2001 wrote:If you are impressioning a key, when you turn the blank, it is easy to tell whether it is lever or warded.

A warded lock will stop the blank instantly when the wards are hit by the blank. There is no give at all.

A lever lock will have a slightly 'springy' feel when it stops the key. (Excuse the technical terminology).

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Makes perfect sense! Thanks for the clarification!
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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby huxleypig » 4 Feb 2014 19:26

That key was a real labour of love Gordon, absolutely beautiful! I love old locks like this and it's great to see them getting new keys and working again.
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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby glenaw » 29 Apr 2014 8:25

Great Job!!

I have made keys for barrel locks before but never from a block of brass stock. Great workmanship. Where did you get the block of brass? Did you make your own?

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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby GWiens2001 » 29 Apr 2014 9:40

glenaw wrote:Great Job!!

I have made keys for barrel locks before but never from a block of brass stock. Great workmanship. Where did you get the block of brass? Did you make your own?

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There is a metal dealer on Amazon.com. Have bought brass stock of various dimensions from them several times, and have always been pleased. Do a search for the specific stock dimensions on Amazon. :D

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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby hag3l3 » 29 Dec 2014 8:50

Absolute Brilliance!! And then the announcer got shot....
Nice pics, good attention to detail. 3 hours; boy that dremel sure speeds up the process. that would take you about 2-3 days filing from stock to key.
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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby phoneman85 » 6 Jun 2015 21:04

Gordon, once again you have pulled off another cool project. Instead of being satisfied with a key that "just works", you take the time to make a key that looks cool too. I have one of the little mailbag locks that has a homemade key, the guy I bought the lock from took it apart and made the key from solid brass like you did. cool stuff!
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Re: Making a Key for an older Wilson Bohannan Padlock

Postby Bluenkight » 6 Jun 2015 22:19

Awesome work Gordan...very very cool
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