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Slimline Vs Standard

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Slimline Vs Standard

Postby KPick » 3 Feb 2014 0:09

Does this make sense?

(This is something I found to help out learning how to pick serrated & spoorated pins, which I found helpful.)

You're using a slimline pick, thinking they are the best picks to use for years, and you realize they aren't the best for every situation. Today I realized that if you use a standard lock pick (medium hook) like the one below (which is thicker and has a wider neck), the thicker width of the pick will allow for better lift of the key-pins than using a slimline, due to the extra hardness and the support of the wider neck of the standard pick, hence it doesn't allow the pick to bend and spring upward with extra force. This allows for better accuracy in the upward force being applied to a pin.

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I'm guessing if you're using a slimline pick(like the one below) , the neck of the pick will build tension as your pressing on a pin and finally release the tension on your slimline tool's hook pushing up like a spring (whenever the pin finally budges), causing a possible over set pin, given enough tension and force (which isn't that much).

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If I'm wrong correct me please.
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Re: Slimline Vs Standard

Postby spandexwarrior » 3 Feb 2014 0:32

The slimline pick with the reduced shank is certainly not as rigid or as strong as the standard but you would have to be using a lot of force to really see that make a difference when setting a single pin. I have some picks with a thin shank that over time have bent far more than a standard one would but I would expect that. For me, the value of the slimline or reduced shank picks is the ability to move around in tighter keyways and the extra height/lift you can get before the shaft touches pins behind the tip of the pick.

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Re: Slimline Vs Standard

Postby fgarci03 » 3 Feb 2014 20:32

KPick wrote:I'm guessing if you're using a slimline pick(like the one below) , the neck of the pick will build tension as your pressing on a pin and finally release the tension on your slimline tool's hook pushing up like a spring (whenever the pin finally budges), causing a possible over set pin, given enough tension and force (which isn't that much).

I don't think this is a fact, but I could very well be wrong!

Anyway, what you are experiencing is true to me too. I much prefer the regular hook over the slimlines everytime the keyway allows me too. But being in Europe, I have to use the slimline way more than I'd like too.

I tend to be heavy handed, so a sturdy pick really helps a lot!


spandexwarrior wrote:The slimline pick with the reduced shank is certainly not as rigid or as strong as the standard but you would have to be using a lot of force to really see that make a difference when setting a single pin. I have some picks with a thin shank that over time have bent far more than a standard one would but I would expect that. For me, the value of the slimline or reduced shank picks is the ability to move around in tighter keyways and the extra height/lift you can get before the shaft touches pins behind the tip of the pick.

+1 on this!
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