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Tear Gas inside fire vault door

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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby atmtech3078 » 20 Aug 2014 7:29

I'm sure there would be a huge stack of paperwork required for disposal.
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby MacGyver101 » 20 Aug 2014 8:29

There have been a few models that were explosive right from the factory... here are two that used a modified relocker mechanism as a firing pin, and fired rounds of ammunition in order to break the tear gas vials:

Not sure if this model was ever actually produced, but variants of smoke bombs were also patented, using some chemicals that I wouldn't want to be inhaling: US Patent 1,886,394. :shock:
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby atmtech3078 » 20 Aug 2014 19:27

MacGyver101 wrote:There have been a few models that were explosive right from the factory... here are two that used a modified relocker mechanism as a firing pin, and fired rounds of ammunition in order to break the tear gas vials:

Not sure if this model was ever actually produced, but variants of smoke bombs were also patented, using some chemicals that I wouldn't want to be inhaling: US Patent 1,886,394. :shock:


The google patent search is cool. I didn't know about that.
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby YouLuckyFox » 20 Aug 2014 22:45

TSC emailed me a manual once that discussed the safe removal of these and explosive charges. Interesting stuff, bytheway, anyone seen TSC, lately?
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby atmtech3078 » 21 Aug 2014 7:23

YouLuckyFox wrote:TSC emailed me a manual once that discussed the safe removal of these and explosive charges. Interesting stuff, bytheway, anyone seen TSC, lately?


I do not know the name "TSC". Is that a person from this board?
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby averagejoe » 26 Aug 2014 23:28

He has not been around since May though and I have had a PM sitting in my outbox since then for him.
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby Mikeh727 » 27 Aug 2014 0:20

YouLuckyFox wrote:TSC emailed me a manual once that discussed the safe removal of these and explosive charges. Interesting stuff, bytheway, anyone seen TSC, lately?



I also haven't seen him for a while. Here, or on another forum he used to frequent.

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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby atmtech3078 » 27 Aug 2014 20:49



I assumed it was a member here. Thanks for the clairification.
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby GWiens2001 » 7 Sep 2014 10:37

Not exactly tear gas, but this sign is on a safe in for service at a local safe shop.

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May seem funny, until you realize the sign is legit. (They have been removed so the safe can be serviced). The safe belongs to a road construction company, and they use them to blast for the roads.

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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby atmtech3078 » 7 Sep 2014 13:20

Idont think I would want to tourch that one.
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby cledry » 7 Sep 2014 23:04

MacGyver101 wrote:There have been a few models that were explosive right from the factory... here are two that used a modified relocker mechanism as a firing pin, and fired rounds of ammunition in order to break the tear gas vials:

Not sure if this model was ever actually produced, but variants of smoke bombs were also patented, using some chemicals that I wouldn't want to be inhaling: US Patent 1,886,394. :shock:


The kind I removed used a firing pin. It was a bit weird removing them, but all in a days work.
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby CMS_SAFECRAKR1 » 14 Oct 2014 14:11

the times i find them i dispose of them by breaking in a bucket of soapy water to dilute it and neutralize it. Customers always think they are cool to they are told how deadly they are 50+ years later
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby asgardschosen » 22 Nov 2014 15:10

explosive tear gas. I certainly hope they were the exception.....

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1346&dat=19870418&id=u7cwAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qfsDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1934,1157834

"Each vial is equivalent to about 3 sticks of dynamite"
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Re: Tear Gas inside fire vault door

Postby 74TR6 » 23 Nov 2014 2:20

Did not know a chemical change resulted in explosive; that is scary. I removed a single vial from a large HHM records type safe a few months ago. The housing was mounted directly behind the lockpack; thus any action driving the spindle inward would break the vial.
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