Upgrading deadbolt - Schlage B62 505 - bump proof?

[edar]

Due to a "misplacement" of a key I need to rekey my locks (2 doors with one deadbolt each one regular lock function each door). One door outside; one in the garage. Important: I have installed a Schlage FE595 electronic lock in the garage in order to prevent lockouts. I still have the regular deadbolt.

I am thinking to use the occasion to also upgrade the main entry deadbolt to a two side keyed deadbolt model as there is a small window next to the door. I looked at Schlage since my other locks are Schlage and I will have to rekey the other locks or find a new cylinder that works with the other Schlage locks.

Is the Schlage B62 505 really bump and pick proof as indicated on their website?
Should I look at other models?

Can I rekey the Schlage FE595 to work with the Schlage B62 505?

[billdeserthills]

Far as I know the only schlage locks currently sold that are actually bump proof use a "Primus" key, which is a high security lock. The B62 is just a double sided deadbolt, not bump proof
it may say "pick resistant" or "bump resistant" on the package, but that is not the same thing.

[Robotnik]

A standard Schlage cylinder such as this one is anything but pick and bump proof; I'd venture to say the majority of forum users can pick these all day long. That said, they're reasonably serviceable residential locks, and you could certainly buy worse. From what I'm seeing, the B62 and the FE 595 both appear to use a standard SC1 blank; if so, they could be keyed alike. I would verify this before purchase, however.

I'm personally not a fan of double cylinder deadbolts for entry doors, especially when there are few or no alternate exits. They're a code violation in many municipalities, as well. Even from a security standpoint, I'd rather tackle it by installing security film on the sidelight, or a decorative iron screen on the inside, something like that. Of course, I'm not familiar with your hardware configuration, personal situation or risk tolerance, so do what works for you.

[edar]

Talked to a local locksmith who recommended Mul-T-Lock.
I am assuming this is a better grade than Schalge?

[Squelchtone]

Talked to a local locksmith who recommended Mul-T-Lock.
I am assuming this is a better grade than Schalge?

Still bumpable and costs $100 to $150 more per deadbolt.

Make sure he doesn't sell you Garrison, 7 by 7, Classic, or Interactive. If you decide to go Mul-T-Lock, ask for the MT5 version

here's a handy chart to compare the old and new Mul-T-Lock versions:
http://www.soslocksmith.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/mul-t-lock-keys.png

Squelchtone

[billdeserthills]

Talked to a local locksmith who recommended Mul-T-Lock.
I am assuming this is a better grade than Schalge?

I understand from Globallocky2 that Bi-Lock is unbumpable. They make a lock cylinder insert for your schlage housing and likely cost half what the mul-t-lock costs

[edar]

So, even the Interactive+ is not bump proof?

[Squelchtone]

So, even the Interactive+ is not bump proof?

I dont know about the Interactive+, maybe someone else can comment.

it is worth noting that most local hooligans are not going to have mul-t-lock bump keys in their pockets. it depends on who you are and who you think is trying to break in your place. Is it a house in the suburbs? a million dollar brownstone in new york city?

hope this helps,
Squelchtone

[GWiens2001]

Interactive+ is simply an oval shaped movable element. More of a patent-extension thing. No affect on picking at all. Don't know about bumping.

Yes, BiLock is unbumpable, as there is no driver pin.

You can also get Abloy Protec retrofit cylinders (also unbumpable) to put in a Schlage deadbolt. Pricing is not too horrible. Security Snobs carries an assortment of retrofit cylinders.

Gordon

[globallockytoo]

CX5 scorpion is a good quality alternative that is competitively priced and VERY difficult to bump. (duplicate/pick)

[locksmithstamfordct]

Still bumpable and costs $100 to $150 more per deadbolt.

Make sure he doesn't sell you Garrison, 7 by 7, Classic, or Interactive. If you decide to go Mul-T-Lock, ask for the MT5 version

here's a handy chart to compare the old and new Mul-T-Lock versions:


Removed your dead link (page not found) ... that links to your own lock shop's website. You would not be trying to spam us for business, would you? Especially suspicious with this being your first post. I certainly hope not, since it is clearly against the rules. If it is not intended that way, then you can try to make sure the link goes to what you say it goes to, no harm, no foul. If it was intended that way, please don't do it again.

Gordon - moderator

[jimu57]

I think pick and bump RESISTANT is a better description.

[GWiens2001]

For those interested in learning more about Mul-T-Lock, here is a great writeup by Datagram. His writing is concise, easy to understand and very informative.

Gordon

[Jacob Morgan]

One can install a kit from Ilco to make pin tumblers harder to bump, the kit is named bump halt or something like that. About $10 for the kit, and one kit can do several locks. It is based on a heavy spring and a light top pin--messes with the physics of bumping. Unless one is comfortable repinning cylinders a locksmith should install it. I am not claiming that the kit would prevent all bumping attacks, but if someone is going down the street trying doors I really think they would give up on a house that had that kit installed after a few minutes and move on. It could be a compromise between a normal residential lock and a $100+ solution. This route also keeps your lock looking like your neighbor's lock, it does not scream "rob me, I must have something valuable."

If one was really concerned about bumping and was on a budget another approach would be to go with a slightly obscure keyway (not Kwikset KW1, Schlage SC1, Yale Y1, Arrow AR1, etc.) Go with a cylinder for something that no one is selling a bump key for: Corbin, Russwin, Sargent, etc., or go with a 6 pin cylinder for a Schlage or a Yale. Basically pick something that is not common in your area.

[Daltonj21]

The bump halt pins actually work pretty well. Especially if it's in the 6th chamber. I've put 2 of them in a sc1 mortise cylinder. I haven't been able to bump it. I have picked it but it took me a while. I had to get a feel for extremely stiff spring. I would have to say if I didn't know it was there, it would keep me out a lot longer. A hoodlum trying to get in your house would probably move on.