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New here - SPP question

Postby giveen » 18 May 2015 11:53

I've always found lock picking fascinating and wanted to give it a try for some time now but could never justify to myself to purchasing a set.
Last week my ISSA chapter conference gave away Southord PXS-05 sets and I've been having a blast with it. I actually haavent had much success with the C rake and gave up it up and decided to focus on learning to SPP. I currently practice on a Master 131D and half of the time I am successful but get a bit confused on something.

My question is when doing SPP do you always start in the rear most pin or does it even matter or are you trying to find that one pin that binds everything in place?
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Re: New here - SPP question

Postby Squelchtone » 18 May 2015 11:57

Welcome to the forum!

What's an ISSA chapter? I wish I was part of something that handed out lock pick sets, that sounds nice.

The padlock you are working with may have specially shaped anti-picking pins called "spool pins" which due to their shape get stuck when someone tries to pick the lock.

Look up Master 131 or 140 SPP on youtube to see how others are holding their picks, how much tension they apply, and how to overcome those pesky security pins.

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Re: New here - SPP question

Postby giveen » 18 May 2015 12:00

Squelchtone wrote:Welcome to the forum!

What's an ISSA chapter? I wish I was part of something that handed out lock pick sets, that sounds nice.

The padlock you are working with may have specially shaped anti-picking pins called "spool pins" which due to their shape get stuck when someone tries to pick the lock.

Look up Master 131 or 140 SPP on youtube to see how others are holding their picks, how much tension they apply, and how to overcome those pesky security pins.

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https://www.issa.org/

I'll look up on youtube and see if I can find any videos. Thanks.
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Re: New here - SPP question

Postby giveen » 18 May 2015 12:09

I ended up watching this video several time, and he rakes using a hook. I was successful several times in a row after watching the video, but SPP is what I am trying to focus on as I know it will improve my success later on with other locks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxL5bEVf6z8
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Re: New here - SPP question

Postby Squelchtone » 18 May 2015 12:21

ohhh that model.. I have those.. they have a small keyway and I do believe there is a security pin amongst the 4 pins.. For fun, cut off the black plastic and you'll see how they saved money on making the padlock body....

A good way to learn is to buy a Kwikset (just not the Smartkey model), Defiant, Brinks, or Schlage deadbolt for $12-$40 at Home Depot, Lowes, or Walmart, and remove the pins and pin up 1 pin stack, get good at picking it, add another stack of pins, and so on until you have a fully pinned 5 pin cylinder that you can pick consistently, then you can change the key cut hi-low positions for added difficulty and it's almost like picking a whole new lock. Mr. Wizard, a member here, makes and sells a cylinder that comes with bags of different pins, and is easy to pin up, and repin to keep yourself busy for months with raking and single pin picking.

Get a double deadbolt (keyed on both sides), so you can have one that's always ready to pick, and the other one to take apart and learn all the pieces and pin it up progressively.

Padlocks are fun, and probably my favorite lock format, but not always easy to take apart to see what's happening inside.

Happy picking,
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Re: New here - SPP question

Postby giveen » 18 May 2015 14:10

Thanks, I'll give that a try. My wife is already giving me a strange look as I just want to buy locks and she is asking me why.
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Re: New here - SPP question

Postby GWiens2001 » 18 May 2015 20:05

giveen wrote:Thanks, I'll give that a try. My wife is already giving me a strange look as I just want to buy locks and she is asking me why.


ROFL. I recognize that look. My wife gives it to me all the time over my (and my son's) locks. :lol:

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Re: New here - SPP question

Postby UnlockingBoredom » 20 May 2015 0:01

I think we all have one of those... :lol:
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Re: New here - SPP question

Postby billdeserthills » 20 May 2015 1:24

UnlockingBoredom wrote:I think we all have one of those... :lol:



I got rid of mine years ago
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Re: New here - SPP question

Postby giveen » 20 May 2015 8:37

Bought myself a Master 7KAD yesterday, figured it would be another easy 4 pin, but the key hole is very small, makes it very tough to work in, but on the plus side bought a few more picks that should arrive next week to help out.
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