American 5200 No Key

[Rino7603]

I found this American 5200 "UPRR" at my work the other day. It was open with no key, and was badly rusted. Since it was luckily open, I was able to take it apart and clean it up. It is working again and I was able to pick the cylinder in a short time.

I was wondering how I might find a key for it to try and re-pin it. Any ideas?

http://i.imgur.com/gI0BkAS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/agVBqUG.jpg

[Squelchtone]

A photo of the keyway would be most helpful.

[GWiens2001]

IIRC, Union Pacific uses a restricted keyway.

Gordon

[billdeserthills]

IIRC, Union Pacific uses a restricted keyway.

Gordon

So does APS (electric co.) but you can just shave the bottom off a schlage sc-20 blank and it fits fine

[GWiens2001]

IIRC, Union Pacific uses a restricted keyway.

Gordon

So does APS (electric co.) but you can just shave the bottom off a schlage sc-20 blank and it fits fine

That would be an R2 keyway, right?

Gordon

[Rino7603]

Sorry. Here is the keyway

http://imgur.com/a/ZfYFG

[billdeserthills]

IIRC, Union Pacific uses a restricted keyway.

Gordon

So does APS (electric co.) but you can just shave the bottom off a schlage sc-20 blank and it fits fine

That would be an R2 keyway, right?

Gordon

We didn't have a name for it, except maybe cash, because it was obviously a restricted key that
I felt guilty for making, but a fun key to make. For some reason the APS guy would get a few from time to time.
I always wondered why he was buying our keys when they prolly had a box full of the correct key at work?

[Squelchtone]

Sorry. Here is the keyway

http://imgur.com/a/ZfYFG

very pretty keyway, but I don't know what it is.

[Protec2]

The keyway has a nice shelf to pick from.

[GWiens2001]

Just so you are aware, I would be very, very, very very very very hesitant to make a key for that lock without at least swapping the pins around so the key bitting is different.

Personally would not to have the railroad police (and yes, the railroad police are still LEO, and have arrest and investigation authority) catch me with a working key to any of the locks they use. In fact, in this day of the threat of terrorism, would not want those keys anyway anyhow.

Just a fair warning of the risks involved.

Gordon

[DangerDane]

GWiens2001, Shouldn't he be safe if he can prove where he get the lock from, ie that he didn't steal it or obtain it through surreptitious ways.

[GWiens2001]

GWiens2001, Shouldn't he be safe if he can prove where he get the lock from, ie that he didn't steal it or obtain it through surreptitious ways.

Not really. The lock is marked as UPRR. They can claim that he purchased stolen locks. As I said, at the very least, swap pins so the key he makes does not match that used by the railroad.

Gordon

[Rino7603]

Just so you are aware, I would be very, very, very very very very hesitant to make a key for that lock without at least swapping the pins around so the key bitting is different.

Personally would not to have the railroad police (and yes, the railroad police are still LEO, and have arrest and investigation authority) catch me with a working key to any of the locks they use. In fact, in this day of the threat of terrorism, would not want those keys anyway anyhow.

Just a fair warning of the risks involved.

Gordon

I don't care that the key is the same bitting as it is now. I just don't know how or if I could find a key or even a blank that would fit the keyway. I fully intend to change the pins and fit any key that I might obtain. I also don't plan to advertise beyond this post that I have one of their locks. I work for the street dept of my town and it had been sitting on a shelf for who knows how long. I'm sure it had been picked up one day lost and forgotten about as rusted as it was. If I can't get a key for it, then that's no big deal either.

[Protec2]

There is a seller on ebay who lists American lock cylinders with restricted keyways. They state they are from a now defunct newspaper company. Perhaps they have the correct key profile?

[kwoswalt99-]

It might be easier to get a new cylinder for it.