New Gary Floor Safe

[djed]

See attached:

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Safe is locked and the combination is unknown but I'm thinking about my options.

It would be great to know the model name/number (? Titan ?) and manufacturing year.

Gary (then Allied-Gary) I believe was acquired by FireKing but FireKing customer service has not responded to my inquiry about whether they acquired the factory combinations for Gary safes.

The safe appears to be effectively new (never installed). It's 10" tall & wide by 17.5" deep. The encasement appears to be steel and it is super heavy (as if it was made of lead). My guess is it's 250 - 300 lbs.

The seller/prior owner doesn't think there is anything inside.

[Squelchtone]

I notice you asked for manufacture year in a couple posts, that sort of info is lost to the ages at this point. You may get lucky to have someone track down the decade in which a safe was made, but not something like oh yeah, this Gary was made 1940 to 1943 in the Toledo Ohio plant and is model number Excelsior 700R, maybe on something made from 1970 to current, but not older stufff. If that info does actually exist, it's either in some retired safe technicians notes, in some dusty catalog in someone's attic, or gone forever. It does get frustrating sometimes not knowing if a safe is from 1850 or 1890 but does it really add more story or value if you knew the exact year it was made? (I will admit I am always hungry for specifics like that, but I've learned not to chase my tail with antique safes and locks too hard)

Squelchtone

[GWiens2001]

Think I have the same safe door as that. Don't know the year it was made.

Your serial number looks to be 28071, in case that helps someone identify it.

Weight is frequently added to safes using concrete to fill in empty spaces between the walls of the safe.

Gordon

[djed]

Got the Gary floor safe combination figured out and now just need to figure out how the relocker works to get the safe open.

First - I have to say that I really enjoyed the learning process and would not do anything differently.

That said, even with the help, research and specialty tools I own or purchased, hiring a safe technician would be worth every penny if one didn't want to mess with it.

[Squelchtone]

Got the Gary floor safe combination figured out and now just need to figure out how the relocker works to get the safe open.

First - I have to say that I really enjoyed the learning process and would not do anything differently.

That said, even with the help, research and specialty tools I own or purchased, hiring a safe technician would be worth every penny if one didn't want to mess with it.

press and hold that 1/4 round chrome rod that has it's own slot in the plate that it rides in, then (assuming the fence has dropped into the gates already) continue to turn dial to retract bolts. check the video I PMed you a few days back, for a similar mechanism.

nice job working out the combo! =)

Squelchtone

[hdp160]

Very interesting indeed. Could someone quickly in very broad terms explain what "after" working out the combination, working out the relocker step refers to please.

[djed]

In very broad terms https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relocking_device

[hdp160]

I read that before I posted my question. Let me put it another way... your sitting in front of a safe, by hook or crook you establish the combination. How has this triggered relocking? How do you know it's been triggered? Or that you haven't fully worked out the combination.

[GWiens2001]

HDP - he is probably not answering the question because the answer may move this thread to the advanced forum.

Having and using the combination does not trigger the relocker. Anything beyond that can not be answered outside the advanced forums. We don't want someone who is up to no good to find how to bypass relockers using a Google search. So we have the advanced forum.

No further information will be forthcoming.

Gordon

[Squelchtone]

I read that before I posted my question. Let me put it another way... your sitting in front of a safe, by hook or crook you establish the combination. How has this triggered relocking? How do you know it's been triggered? Or that you haven't fully worked out the combination.

Everything GW and djed already said, and I'll add one more tid bit.

He's not sitting in front of the safe.

[hdp160]

OK... so just so I'm clear... knowing that the relocker mechanism has triggered is not obvious to a casual crook. Knowing that has triggered is something you only discover when your a safe guru?

[Squelchtone]

OK... so just so I'm clear... knowing that the relocker mechanism has triggered is not obvious to a casual crook. Knowing that has triggered is something you only discover when your a safe guru?

ok, just so I'M clear, no more follow up questions, we're not going to tell you in this thread, sorry. As GW said, we have the Advanced area to discuss the finer details of safe cracking, drilling, relocker triggering, etc, etc, the This Old Safe area is for basic maintenance and troubleshooting and operation only.

[hdp160]

Ouch. Sorry I thought that was a civil question, but now I know.

[Cats-R-us]

I have a safe similar to yours, and there is supposedly something in it. I was wondering how you cracked the code on your safe and if you could help me crack mine. I do not want to wreck it though...