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by billdeserthills » 23 Oct 2016 16:16
I hear you there Jim, I actually use the old kwikset red jig, I don't do anything really challenging with it, but I did make an adaptor to allow easier & more precise drilling of lever flush bolts, using it. There is so little call for me to do any kind of fire door work that I rarely worry about spending money on a fancy new jig.
I have time, what I want to have is more money & in that regard I would suggest Key Sales and Supply's great sale--New Titan pin tumbler deadbolts in #3 finish only $10.00, or new kwikset pin tumbler Delta leversets in the 405 entry function in an 11P finish for $12.00--I bought a big pile of both and the prices are so low that simply doubling my profit on these just won't be an option!!
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by Tyler J. Thomas » 23 Oct 2016 19:57
billdeserthills wrote:Tyler J. Thomas wrote:I've got a crossbore jig but it's made by A-1. I eventually want to buy the Major crossbore jig but it's $1k. Comes with literally everything though, including strike mortise tools.
I use a thing called 'measure twice, cut once' that has never failed me, I have never been so busy that I couldn't take the time to measure twice and I don't want to be either
And when you're converting a door from a mortise to cylindrical prep? Changing the back set? Converting from the old Schlage 1 1/2" to 2 1/8"? Do you break out some plywood and clamp it on the door to have something to bite into? Yeah, I used to do that. I used to hate jigs and swear they were only for lazy or inexperienced techs but I've been humbled and realized that they do have their place on the truck. Even master carpenters like Norm Abrams uses jigs.
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by billdeserthills » 24 Oct 2016 16:10
The times I have converted a door using a mortise lock to a conventional tubular lock I used my kwikset jig and it worked fine-- I don't need a lot of expensive jigs, instead I like to very carefully measure and then even more carefully drill. Before I bought a metal lathe and a milling machine I thought I knew what precise was, but once you start working with metal, precision becomes another world.
Thing is I only work a couple of hours a day--If I had a lot more work I would wish to work faster and for that I might use a more elaborate jig to save time
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by Tyler J. Thomas » 24 Oct 2016 16:36
billdeserthills wrote:The times I have converted a door using a mortise lock to a conventional tubular lock I used my kwikset jig and it worked fine-- I don't need a lot of expensive jigs, instead I like to very carefully measure and then even more carefully drill. Before I bought a metal lathe and a milling machine I thought I knew what precise was, but once you start working with metal, precision becomes another world.
Thing is I only work a couple of hours a day--If I had a lot more work I would wish to work faster and for that I might use a more elaborate jig to save time
I hear ya. We're bidding on a job right now to replace Adams Rite MS1850S-050 (hook bolt) with an Adams Rite 4510 (latch) on about 9 pair of doors. Swapping out won't be a problem (we're bidding to include 4600 handles), but cutting the strike free hand is next to impossible. I'll be buying a few router jigs from Major if we get the job.
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by shutterstuff » 24 Oct 2016 17:18
billdeserthills wrote:Thing is I only work a couple of hours a day--If I had a lot more work I would wish to work faster and for that I might use a more elaborate jig to save time
When I grow up, I want to be like Bill!!!  And I turned 55 today...
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by billdeserthills » 24 Oct 2016 17:55
Tyler J. Thomas wrote:billdeserthills wrote:The times I have converted a door using a mortise lock to a conventional tubular lock I used my kwikset jig and it worked fine-- I don't need a lot of expensive jigs, instead I like to very carefully measure and then even more carefully drill. Before I bought a metal lathe and a milling machine I thought I knew what precise was, but once you start working with metal, precision becomes another world.
Thing is I only work a couple of hours a day--If I had a lot more work I would wish to work faster and for that I might use a more elaborate jig to save time
I hear ya. We're bidding on a job right now to replace Adams Rite MS1850S-050 (hook bolt) with an Adams Rite 4510 (latch) on about 9 pair of doors. Swapping out won't be a problem (we're bidding to include 4600 handles), but cutting the strike free hand is next to impossible. I'll be buying a few router jigs from Major if we get the job.
Last adams/rite hookbolt I installed I cut out with my die grinder after I drilled a hole in each corner, it wasn't too tough, but I was sweating like crazy, worried that I might flinch and screw it all up. If I had to do a bunch I would definitely want a jig.
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by billdeserthills » 24 Oct 2016 17:56
shutterstuff wrote:billdeserthills wrote:Thing is I only work a couple of hours a day--If I had a lot more work I would wish to work faster and for that I might use a more elaborate jig to save time
When I grow up, I want to be like Bill!!!  And I turned 55 today...
First step is to become self-employed 
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by shutterstuff » 24 Oct 2016 18:13
billdeserthills wrote:First step is to become self-employed 
Did that about 2 years ago. Again...
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by cledry » 24 Oct 2016 21:04
Tyler J. Thomas wrote:billdeserthills wrote:The times I have converted a door using a mortise lock to a conventional tubular lock I used my kwikset jig and it worked fine-- I don't need a lot of expensive jigs, instead I like to very carefully measure and then even more carefully drill. Before I bought a metal lathe and a milling machine I thought I knew what precise was, but once you start working with metal, precision becomes another world.
Thing is I only work a couple of hours a day--If I had a lot more work I would wish to work faster and for that I might use a more elaborate jig to save time
I hear ya. We're bidding on a job right now to replace Adams Rite MS1850S-050 (hook bolt) with an Adams Rite 4510 (latch) on about 9 pair of doors. Swapping out won't be a problem (we're bidding to include 4600 handles), but cutting the strike free hand is next to impossible. I'll be buying a few router jigs from Major if we get the job.
Check out the jigs from Security Lock, we prefer them and do a lot of Adams Rite work.
Jim
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by Tyler J. Thomas » 25 Oct 2016 8:51
cledry wrote:Tyler J. Thomas wrote:billdeserthills wrote:The times I have converted a door using a mortise lock to a conventional tubular lock I used my kwikset jig and it worked fine-- I don't need a lot of expensive jigs, instead I like to very carefully measure and then even more carefully drill. Before I bought a metal lathe and a milling machine I thought I knew what precise was, but once you start working with metal, precision becomes another world.
Thing is I only work a couple of hours a day--If I had a lot more work I would wish to work faster and for that I might use a more elaborate jig to save time
I hear ya. We're bidding on a job right now to replace Adams Rite MS1850S-050 (hook bolt) with an Adams Rite 4510 (latch) on about 9 pair of doors. Swapping out won't be a problem (we're bidding to include 4600 handles), but cutting the strike free hand is next to impossible. I'll be buying a few router jigs from Major if we get the job.
Check out the jigs from Security Lock, we prefer them and do a lot of Adams Rite work.
I guess they're different from Major's ?
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by Tyler J. Thomas » 30 Oct 2016 13:49
Have a job next week to install an E-Plex on a store front door. Customer wanted the ability to unlock the door from the secretaries desk. Decided to put together a push button release that can either be mounted to the wall or her desk. Did a write up about it on my blog: http://asecured.life/push-button-releas ... ld-box-12/
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by Pahaseta » 30 Oct 2016 15:23
A little different night the other day. Cops called to open a truck. Man had been missing for two days, his company couldn't reach him. The assumption was right the man had died in his truck, probably a bout of illness.
tuska tekee autuaaksi
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by cledry » 30 Oct 2016 17:28
Tyler J. Thomas wrote:Have a job next week to install an E-Plex on a store front door. Customer wanted the ability to unlock the door from the secretaries desk. Decided to put together a push button release that can either be mounted to the wall or her desk. Did a write up about it on my blog: http://asecured.life/push-button-releas ... ld-box-12/
Meh, I prefer the screws to be lined up vertically. 
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by kwoswalt99- » 30 Oct 2016 19:07
So this would bother you? 
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