Advice on access control

[JLawrence]

Hello everyone,

I need to control access to an area, not actually secure it. We lock it properly at night and don't want the door wide open during the day. Unfortunately, that is not currently an option and I have been assigned to find a decent (easy to use and durable while not excessively expensive) electronic lock. I'm going to go to a local (Oklahoma) locksmith after I get the ideas and any and all information/ideas are appreciated. I'm currently looking at the codehandle by assa abloy and would appreciate thoughts on it if anyone has had experience/issues with it.

[Squelchtone]

Hi, not sure why but this is posted in This Old Lock instead of What Lock Should I Buy, will move the post for you to the correct area....

[cledry]

Hello everyone,

I need to control access to an area, not actually secure it. We lock it properly at night and don't want the door wide open during the day. Unfortunately, that is not currently an option and I have been assigned to find a decent (easy to use and durable while not excessively expensive) electronic lock. I'm going to go to a local (Oklahoma) locksmith after I get the ideas and any and all information/ideas are appreciated. I'm currently looking at the codehandle by assa abloy and would appreciate thoughts on it if anyone has had experience/issues with it.

Don't like the product you are looking at.

My preference is for the Kaba ePlex E2031. I have had good luck with this product and have installed hundreds over the years.

[landeroth]

Thanks Squelch. I was at work and really busy so I probably clicked the wrong thing in haste. Much appreciated. Thanks to Cedry as well. Do you know how well those held up? They say rated for 100,000 uses which where I'm looking at would be around 15 years and if that is the case it would be amazing.

[cledry]

Thanks Squelch. I was at work and really busy so I probably clicked the wrong thing in haste. Much appreciated. Thanks to Cedry as well. Do you know how well those held up? They say rated for 100,000 uses which where I'm looking at would be around 15 years and if that is the case it would be amazing.

Very few failures if not abused. Cannot recall the electronics ever failing on one, most that has happened are broken springs. Cannot say the same for other brands. If I think they are going to be abused I suggest and install a limiter so that the handle cannot be moved upwards or downwards more than needed to open the door.

[landeroth]

That is some priceless advice. I didn't know that could be done and this will be opened with heavy boxes in hand so a limiter will definitely be something to look into. I greatly appreciate it.

[Evan]

Hello everyone,

I need to control access to an area, not actually secure it. We lock it properly at night and don't want the door wide open during the day. Unfortunately, that is not currently an option and I have been assigned to find a decent (easy to use and durable while not excessively expensive) electronic lock. I'm going to go to a local (Oklahoma) locksmith after I get the ideas and any and all information/ideas are appreciated. I'm currently looking at the codehandle by assa abloy and would appreciate thoughts on it if anyone has had experience/issues with it.

This has not yet been asked, but why is the current locking device no longer adequate ?

How is the space to be secured used ? You mentioned heavy boxes in hand while opening the door, so some sort of storage room ?

~~ Evan

[Ralph_Goodman]

This has not yet been asked, but why is the current locking device no longer adequate ?

How is the space to be secured used ? You mentioned heavy boxes in hand while opening the door, so some sort of storage room ?

~~ Evan

Good questions. Maybe those can get to the root of why he said, "I need to control access to an area, not actually secure it."

From that, I would think there is nothing valuable in the area, but there may be some amount of danger involved in going into the room.

Sounds like the current lock uses a key, and they want ease of access. Classic prioritization of convenience over security.

[JLawrence]

The reason the current locking system isn't adequate is it is used at night (too time consuming for use during the day). It also has just a doorknob that doesn't lock (this is used during the day). There is no desire to remove the locking system used, but to replace the nonlocking doorknob with something electronic so we can have better access control during the day. It is a file room, and is properly secured at night. We want better security (access control) during the day and our current system is too cumbersome to reasonably enforce its use during business hours. Thanks for all the advice

-James

[Evan]

The reason the current locking system isn't adequate is it is used at night (too time consuming for use during the day). It also has just a doorknob that doesn't lock (this is used during the day). There is no desire to remove the locking system used, but to replace the nonlocking doorknob with something electronic so we can have better access control during the day. It is a file room, and is properly secured at night. We want better security (access control) during the day and our current system is too cumbersome to reasonably enforce its use during business hours. Thanks for all the advice

-James

James:

You could install a second door inside the room and use it like the "day gate" on a bank vault.

~~ Evan

[cledry]

The reason the current locking system isn't adequate is it is used at night (too time consuming for use during the day). It also has just a doorknob that doesn't lock (this is used during the day). There is no desire to remove the locking system used, but to replace the nonlocking doorknob with something electronic so we can have better access control during the day. It is a file room, and is properly secured at night. We want better security (access control) during the day and our current system is too cumbersome to reasonably enforce its use during business hours. Thanks for all the advice

-James

James:

You could install a second door inside the room and use it like the "day gate" on a bank vault.

~~ Evan

That would cost more than installing a stand alone combination lock.

[Evan]

The reason the current locking system isn't adequate is it is used at night (too time consuming for use during the day). It also has just a doorknob that doesn't lock (this is used during the day). There is no desire to remove the locking system used, but to replace the nonlocking doorknob with something electronic so we can have better access control during the day. It is a file room, and is properly secured at night. We want better security (access control) during the day and our current system is too cumbersome to reasonably enforce its use during business hours. Thanks for all the advice

-James

James:

You could install a second door inside the room and use it like the "day gate" on a bank vault.

~~ Evan

That would cost more than installing a stand alone combination lock.

I personally do not like installing stand alone combination or electronic locks on rooms with only one way in, I have seen them fail and cost a lot of money to be opened and replaced.

~~ Evan

[cledry]

~~ Evan[/quote]

That would cost more than installing a stand alone combination lock.[/quote]

I personally do not like installing stand alone combination or electronic locks on rooms with only one way in, I have seen them fail and cost a lot of money to be opened and replaced.

~~ Evan[/quote]

Huh? They generally have a mechanical key override.