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Which Euro profile cylinder

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Which Euro profile cylinder

Postby cledry » 7 Jan 2018 0:13

Just purchased a flat in the UK, the exterior door has a cheap Yale para cylinder with buzzer system and there are only 7 flats in a fairly low crime part of the UK. My flat has a high quality mortise lock but just an inexpensive cylinder. Local Screwfix store offers Cisa Astral S and a Yale Superior 1 star as well as the pricier Yale 3 star cylinders. Roughly £35-£57 each.

Is the Cisa Astral S adequate protection?
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Re: Which Euro profile cylinder

Postby femurat » 7 Jan 2018 1:41

Yes, if it's protected by a defender. You know, the round plate against snapping.

I know you like beers, but buying a flat in the UK seems a bit overkill to me! Don't they ship overseas? :lol:

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Re: Which Euro profile cylinder

Postby capt.dunc » 7 Jan 2018 9:16

is it a rim cylinder connected to a latch or a euro cylinder connected to a morticed bolt?

when you say it also has a quality mortice lock, i assume you mean a morticed lever lock, if it's a bs 5 lever lock with a bolt that has a 20mm throw then you're good. a bit of reinforcing of the frame never goes amiss. that one lock is all you need for insurance. a secondary latch is good to help spread the force if someone tries to kick the door in, but should only really be used for locking the door if you're popping out to the car or garden.

it's amazing how many people in rented flats in the uk just use the latch because they can't be bothered to actively lock the lever lock, good news for locksmiths (easier lockouts) and good news for burglars.
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Re: Which Euro profile cylinder

Postby cledry » 7 Jan 2018 17:49

femurat wrote:Yes, if it's protected by a defender. You know, the round plate against snapping.

I know you like beers, but buying a flat in the UK seems a bit overkill to me! Don't they ship overseas? :lol:

Cheers :)


I thought the Cisa was an anti-snap cylinder, besides I plan to purchase a size that doesn't project to get a snapper on.

It was a bit of a spur of the moment purchase, you know how it is; you see something and think I need that.

Seriously though we love that part of the UK, I have family there, we have a nice ocean view from our flat, and pubs, clubs, shops, doctors offices, hospital, parks, library, ocean, countryside, train station, bus station all within no more than 1/4 mile walk. It is just a healthier lifestyle than where I live in the US.
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Re: Which Euro profile cylinder

Postby cledry » 7 Jan 2018 18:01

capt.dunc wrote:is it a rim cylinder connected to a latch or a euro cylinder connected to a morticed bolt?

when you say it also has a quality mortice lock, i assume you mean a morticed lever lock, if it's a bs 5 lever lock with a bolt that has a 20mm throw then you're good. a bit of reinforcing of the frame never goes amiss. that one lock is all you need for insurance. a secondary latch is good to help spread the force if someone tries to kick the door in, but should only really be used for locking the door if you're popping out to the car or garden.

it's amazing how many people in rented flats in the uk just use the latch because they can't be bothered to actively lock the lever lock, good news for locksmiths (easier lockouts) and good news for burglars.


No, it is a Union 2D2 sash lock. I see in the UK the latch is not deadlocked like is common in the US so it is stupid to not throw the bolt.
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Re: Which Euro profile cylinder

Postby capt.dunc » 11 Jan 2018 19:14

if you don't have a separate lever lock then put a 3* bs euro in your case, or put a 1* in and fit a separate 5 lever lock on your door as well
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Re: Which Euro profile cylinder

Postby cledry » 12 Jan 2018 18:03

capt.dunc wrote:if you don't have a separate lever lock then put a 3* bs euro in your case, or put a 1* in and fit a separate 5 lever lock on your door as well


I put what model lock I have. It is a fire door so unless UK doesn't have similar laws for fire doors as we do in the US. It is not permitted to add additional hardware that is drilled into the door.
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