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What did you pick today?

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby DWeb » 7 Jun 2018 0:44

my Pick for yesterday was Best SFIC, today was Medeco Biaxial.
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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby adi_picker » 8 Jun 2018 5:00

Nice work DWeb, still practising Medeco's myself!

Sargent and Greenleaf 833 - 6 Pin Biaxial MIL Restricted profile

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Take that Uncle Sam!

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Take that obscure British lockmaker!

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby GWiens2001 » 8 Jun 2018 18:30

adi_picker wrote:Nice work DWeb, still practising Medeco's myself!

Sargent and Greenleaf 833 - 6 Pin Biaxial MIL Restricted profile

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Take that Uncle Sam!

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Take that obscure British lockmaker!

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't think Squire would like to be considered obscure. :D

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby adi_picker » 8 Jun 2018 19:27

Hahaha, yeah, I think you have me there! I was tired and looking for a descriptive word ;) And they are obscure in Australia!

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby GWiens2001 » 8 Jun 2018 21:07

They are obscure here in the United States, as well. Just don't think they'd like to hear so from we former rebellious colonies. :twisted:

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby peterwn » 11 Jun 2018 4:26

GWiens2001 wrote:They are obscure here in the United States, as well. Just don't think they'd like to hear so from we former rebellious colonies. :twisted:

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Squire has been in business since 1780 and Master since 1921. Around 50 years ago both companies had rather similar product ranges, especially low security galvanised iron warded padlocks and laminated steel pin tumbler padlocks. Product ranges have diverged in more recent times with Squire for example marketing high strength padlocks. Cheap Asian pin tumbler padlocks have displaced warded padlocks. Interestingly Squire has remained independent and not gobbled up by Yale (as other British manufacturers were over the years) or by the likes of ASSA-Abloy. This is probably because it remains family owned (like Wilson Bohannan in USA or Jacksons in Australia - interestingly both were originally predominantly railroad padlock manufacturers).
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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby GWiens2001 » 12 Jun 2018 22:57

Didn't know Squire had been in business for so long. Thank you for the info! :D

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby peterwn » 13 Jun 2018 2:24

GWiens2001 wrote:Didn't know Squire had been in business for so long. Thank you for the info! :D

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Squire's web site says Squire supplied padlocks to the British Army during the Napoleonic Wars (1803 - 1815).
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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby adi_picker » 13 Jun 2018 5:33

Wow! Schooled on Squire, thanks Peter.

Medeco Padlock

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S&G 826 - Medeco Core

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Both of these locks were a good challenge for me, but particularly the Medeco branded one at the top, as it was quite worn, and came to me with no key, meaning there was definitely no rotations preset. Took me a good few days of picking on and off to really get the hang of rotating the pins, especially out of false gates, which I guess I hadn't actually encountered all that much in my previous Medecos until these two padlocks. The S&G wasn't as bad, with only 4 pins requiring rotation, but due to the more restrictive keyway I stopped and made a thinner version of my DCAP lifter to fit between the wards. Overall a good day, definitely feel I have a a better handle on rotation now!

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby Squelchtone » 13 Jun 2018 8:13

nicely done! what would you say your pick times were on the medecos? I either get lucky and its open under a minute or it takes 1 to 20 minutes, or not at all.

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby adi_picker » 13 Jun 2018 18:07

I would say these were each in the 20 minute range as well Squelch. I picked CW, and could get both picked to the shear within a couple of minutes, but the rotations definitely slowed me down. I have a bunch more Medeco's coming in the mail soon, with the intent to practice on all of them, and I'm sure those times will come down. As you mentioned, I also have plenty of others in my collection that I can open in a couple of minutes, ones with easier bitting, and where only a pin or two require rotation to be set. This was the big difference for me, I really couldn't understand why I had so much trouble opening these ones at first, but all it was was a lot of pins requiring rotation and stuck in false gates, the both opened when I just persevered. Also, these were both Classics, which I do find harder to rotate the pins on somewhat, the couple of BiAxials I have rotate a heckuva lot easier, so buy a Classic!

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby adi_picker » 16 Jun 2018 7:33

More Medecos!

5 Pin Classic, slightly restricted profile.
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Thanks go to GreenGrow for this beaut!

5 Pin BiAxial
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New style, 3 spools, 2 ASSA barrels.

50 series Padlock
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These have a Cam style core from what I can tell, although I haven't been able to figure out how to disassemble it just yet. If anyone could enlighten me, it would be awesome. I don't buy locks for their collect-ability, but I really do like the patina on this one :)

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby greengrowlocks » 16 Jun 2018 20:31

I picked this 3020 four times today to test a run of tools I've finished over the last week. It makes a good test lock because it has a 0, 90, 0 sequence. I got my hands on the proper cutting tool for adding space markings which gave me a renewed interest in making this set of Classic tools.

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby adi_picker » 21 Jun 2018 5:13

American 6200 Series w/ Medeco Classic Core
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Think this has already been mentioned here somewhere before, but this lock contained a Classic core, though strangely it sported a BiAxial logo on the face. Perhaps in a crossover period, or maybe plugs being diverted between stages of the manufacturing process?

Medeco M3
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Finally managed to get my hands on an M3 at a decent price.

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Re: What did you pick today?

Postby GreyHazRoot » 21 Jun 2018 10:49

I picked my Ultimate Practice lock, pinned to only 4 standard key and drivers. 5 more opens and then I'll add the 5th pin. :D :D
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