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Starting to pick tubular locks

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

Starting to pick tubular locks

Postby ragebot » 21 Aug 2018 16:41

After reading and searching here I seem to be getting more confused about where to start and what to buy. I have seen youtube vids where normal picks and tension tools are used. There are also specialized tools to pick tubular locks. Right now I am looking at a three tool set which seems to have three different tools with different diameters for different locks 7.0mm, 7.5mm, and 7.8mm. I have a couple of tubular locks that are all 7.8mm and that seems to be some what of a standard, at least for the seven pin tubular locks that seem to be the most common.


https://www.amazon.com/LK-Store-Tubular ... ZWQN5G0221

This choice is not set in stone so if anyone has other options I am open to other suggestions.

So my first question relates to a you tube vid where the guy quickly picks the tubular lock on a small gun safe and says he is concerned it is so easy to pick the tubular lock with what I term a first tier tubular lockpicking tool. I found a thread here where someone asked about a $US78.00 lock and squelchtone said you could find a $US15 dollar tool that might work just as well. But other commenters noted that just as with conventional lockpicking there is a learning curve in tubular lockpicking. Questions relate to first off how steep is the learning curve, and will a quality tool, as opposed to bottom tier tools, help reduce the learning curve. Also wondering how common the 7.8mm size is. I always like to carry fewer tools, but also want to have the tools that are needed.


There is no real time pressure to get my new toys since I don't have any tubular locks with out keys. So the last question is once I get some tools for tubular locks I can go on Amazon and buy a cheap set of six tubular locks unless someone comes up with a better source for tubular locks for me to play with.
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Re: Starting to pick tubular locks

Postby Squelchtone » 21 Aug 2018 20:55

tubular is a little more than beginner level picking, moving this to Intermediate.
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Re: Starting to pick tubular locks

Postby billdeserthills » 22 Aug 2018 1:16

Picking a 7 pin center standard tubular (ace-type) lock seems to me easier than the practice required to pick a 5 pin schlage lock, as the only thing that can be adjusted on a tubular pick is the tension upon the picks, which on the HPC pick I like (TLP-C mod B) consists of tightening or loosening a nut that increases the tension on the sliders (picks)

Using the pick is so simple, what can be hard about gently plunging the pick in & out of the lock a bit at a time?
Once the sliders reach the deepest position, it's time to pull the pick out and make the tension tighter, then try
again--really takes no great amount of skill.

I recall reading that placing a light spring inside the barrel of the pick can improve the picker's ability

Btw, many of these picking tools have a collar over the sliders. If your pick quits working well, you can carefully slide the collar off and replace the o-rings underneath it with new ones from harbor freight

I hope I'm allowed to go into this much detail and I trust our mods will delete this if not
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Re: Starting to pick tubular locks

Postby ragebot » 22 Aug 2018 6:47

billdeserthills wrote:SNIP


Btw, many of these picking tools have a collar over the sliders. If your pick quits working well, you can carefully slide the collar off and replace the o-rings underneath it with new ones from harbor freight

I hope I'm allowed to go into this much detail and I trust our mods will delete this if not



There are multiple youtube vids that show how to alter the O-ring configuration and also how to secure the pins once the lock has been picked so the picking tool can be used as a de facto key. Also vids showing how to easily make keys by using a Dremal tool to cut a blank key.


I have to say compared to the vids on youtube showing how to pick conventional key locks the vids showing how to pick a tubular lock made it seem like tubular locks was much easier, almost a no brainer. I have played around with bump keys and picking guns and quite frankly it is often easier/quicker for me to use the SPP method. On the other hand it does look easeir to use a tubular tool than SPP on a tubular lock.


Just my two cents but I suspect folks who use tubular locks depend on their unique key shape to deter picking more than how easy it is to defeat one with a decent tool.
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Re: Starting to pick tubular locks

Postby Kenneth_V » 26 Oct 2020 14:01

Where is a good source for picking up some tubular locks. I can’t seem to find any locally and don’t really want to chance a random Amazon or China site order.

Specifically I want a couple that can’t be picked with an impressioning tool and some that can.

Any suggestions?
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Re: Starting to pick tubular locks

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Oct 2020 16:49

Kenneth_V wrote:Where is a good source for picking up some tubular locks. I can’t seem to find any locally and don’t really want to chance a random Amazon or China site order.

Specifically I want a couple that can’t be picked with an impressioning tool and some that can.

Any suggestions?


ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ademco-ACE-Tub ... 4343592898

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-Tubular-Ca ... 1897524583

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ACE-Tubular-El ... 4222701026

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ademco-ACE-Tub ... 2863331537

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HIGH-QUALITY-C ... 3512827617

there are more.. so many more..
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Re: Starting to pick tubular locks

Postby Kenneth_V » 26 Oct 2020 19:00

Sorry I should have specified I’m in Canada and shipping on eBay is a killer!

The first lock you posted is $42 cad shipped

Second one is a little better at $23 cad shipped

Third one is $41.12 cad!!

Thanks

I’ll check closer on eBay though and see if I can find some deals
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Re: Starting to pick tubular locks

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Oct 2020 21:55

Kenneth_V wrote:Sorry I should have specified I’m in Canada and shipping on eBay is a killer!

The first lock you posted is $42 cad shipped

Second one is a little better at $23 cad shipped

Third one is $41.12 cad!!

Thanks

I’ll check closer on eBay though and see if I can find some deals



Please fill out your profile location, why did I do all that digging for nothing! grrrr.. :lol:

Here's one in Canada. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Capitol-5-8-Tub ... 3989284987

Otherwise, start walking into locksmith shops and asking for old stock that they'll sell you cheap or find members on here or on reddit/r/lockpicking who are from Canada and willing to sell/trade with other hobbyists.
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Re: Starting to pick tubular locks

Postby Kenneth_V » 27 Oct 2020 0:09

Thanks Squelchtone

I appreciate the links!

As soon as I am able, I will post in the Buy-Sell-Trade forum
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Re: Starting to pick tubular locks

Postby cledry » 29 Oct 2020 19:17

The best tubular pick is the one manufactured by Lee, but no longer available. Pro-Lok makes a copy that is also good. You can individually pick the pins and lock it for easier decoding.https://www.lockpicks.com/pka2-deluxe-pace-pick.html
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