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Restoring a safe from 1854 W. Basch&Co

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Restoring a safe from 1854 W. Basch&Co

Postby AndersG » 31 Aug 2020 11:32

Hello all. New to the forum,

I bought a safe 20 years ago and have plans to do a restoration. I'm familiar with restoration of cars and such but not safes.

The safe is from 1854 and has a sign inside saying Patent W.Basch & Co Berlin. On the backside of the plate there is an inscription saying W.Shulenburg Barlin September 1854.

I have been looking for information for this safe for many years but have found nothing. This forum is perhaps more devoted to picking lock but perhaps my only chans to learn mor about the actual safe. If someone in the forum could help me or point me in the right direction I would be very glad. I would even be prepared to pay for information, books or whatever can help me.

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Re: Restoring a safe from 1854 W. Basch&Co

Postby GWiens2001 » 31 Aug 2020 11:55

Can we get pictures of the safe? The whole front, hinges, wheels and handles.

With a lot of safes from back then, information can be scarce. Sometimes someone may have information, but not know the model it is for. Also, sometimes the information for one model applies to other models. Pictures can help a lot.

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Re: Restoring a safe from 1854 W. Basch&Co

Postby Squelchtone » 31 Aug 2020 12:33

Moving this from Member Introductions to This Old Safe.
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Re: Restoring a safe from 1854 W. Basch&Co

Postby AndersG » 1 Sep 2020 14:43

GWiens2001 wrote:Can we get pictures of the safe? The whole front, hinges, wheels and handles.

With a lot of safes from back then, information can be scarce. Sometimes someone may have information, but not know the model it is for. Also, sometimes the information for one model applies to other models. Pictures can help a lot.

Gordon

Gordon,
Thank you for the comment! Yes I will attach some pictures. The safe is obviously repainted. Looks like a wood, maybe, walnut veneer paint under the grey paint. moving a part of the decoration reveals a keyhole and when one of the three keys is used a small door opens and reveals the combination wheels. there is also a hidden keyhole in the upper left corner and a key mechanism in the handle. Now to the sad part the handle itself is missing due to someone forgot the combination and the lock-smith wasn't obviously able to open the safe in any other way than drilling. I will have to repair the damage and make a new handle. If I only knew what it looks like...
Interesting is that the safe has the royal sigill up in from which would indicate that it probably was delivered to someone important at that time. I will be grateful for any information regarding the type of safe and the manufacturer or what the handle should look like.
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Re: Restoring a safe from 1854 W. Basch&Co

Postby DaWolfMan » 15 Sep 2020 15:06

Wow, that is a beautiful looking safe, i wish i had some information to share with you about it, but i will be watching for updates with your progress. I have not seen a safe quite like this before.

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