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There is a mosler safe with a top safe and bottom safe. They have different combinations and I know both; in the 1990's I opened these safes everyday, and I can easily open the top safe, using the standard dialing sequence. I remember that the bottom safe has a different dialing sequence. Can you tell me other dialing sequences?
we all suck at things we are new at. I remember when I sucked at lock picking and dialing open a safe combination.
Your pics are great, so good job, this help us a lot!
How many numbers do you believe are in the bottom safe's combination? and do you have some sort of dialing instructions written down that you have been using?
Those locks are pretty accurate, so make sure you are dialing slowly and landing right on each number.
You don't have to share your exact combination numbers but could you write up how you are opening it now?
Example write up: turn 3 times Left to 30, stop on 30 the 4th time around turn 2 times Right to 81, stop on 81 the 3rd time around turn 1 times Left to 57, stop on 57 the 2nd time around turn 1 time Right until the dial stops and the bolt is retracted pull handle to open door
does your dial "click" loudly when you turn the dial all the way around? as in this video: (Some models of Mosler locks have this added click as a security feature to stop safecrackers)
turn 3 times Left to 30, stop on 30 the 4th time around turn 2 times Right to 81, stop on 81 the 3rd time around turn 1 times Left to 57, stop on 57 the 2nd time around turn 1 time Right until the dial stops and the bolt is retracted pull handle to open door.....
That works on the top safe I remember (from days when I opened these safes daily) the bottom safe has a different dialing pattern, but there are three numbers in the combination. Also, the dial makes no sound.
I think that this is a S&G dial. (Anywhere an S&G on the dial? Chicken foot index? Detail photo?) And the lower compartment is probably not as secure as the upper one.
1) It could be a left handed lock or something like a friction fence lock with a RLRL dialling. Unlikely for an S&G lock. 2) It could be a 4-wheel lock with a 3-number combination. 3-number combination in 4-wheel locks can be set easiest by setting W1 and W2 to the same number. Dialling would be then 5L-3R-2L-R. Unlikely because 4-wheel locks are rarem, especially in fire safes attached to a burglary safe with a 3-wheel lock.
Ballemer (The correct pronunciation) aint that far!
The bottom lock would dial with the L-R-L combination sequence that you are mentioning. It does have a bank examiners hasp so it was a pretty heavy duty unit for its time.
The safe looks older, but it could be that it has the S&G 8500 series lock which would have been premier for its time.
Try dialing the combination as you have been, but instead of "right to stop" go right to "0". Then push the dial in, allow it to pop back back out, and continue turning right to stop. If its not an 8500 lock the dial wont push in.
You can test for the 8500 by turning the dial at least 10 numbers distance to 0, push in and turn the dial to 0. If it makes a slight jump at 0, then it should be a 8500 series lock. In this case there should also be a noise as it goes in. Around 50 there should be some sort of dialling resistance.
