Identify lock

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This lock is for the roll top of an Ahlborn-Galanti digital organ and I would like to get a key made for it if I can identify the appropriate blank.

A-G (aka GEM and Generalmusic) is essentially out of business these days and getting information from them is nigh on impossible.

The organ was made in Italy so I'm guessing the lock is possibly of Italian manufacture.

It is solid brass.

It looks very similar to some American locks for sliding doors, but is larger and has a different keyway to those I was able to view on the Web.

https://imgur.com/IuNV2n8

https://imgur.com/0h8eRHO

https://imgur.com/GLPmB1T

https://imgur.com/PKCyrvx

[billdeserthills]

You might have an easier time just replacing your lock with one of these
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352622546188?_ ... 7020248843

Of course taking your lock to a local locksmith could also solve the problem

[GTC]

Of course taking your lock to a local locksmith could also solve the problem

I did show it to my local guy but he didn't recognize the keyway and said if I can identify the maker/blank he'll see what he can do.

Thanks for the link. It may come to that.

[cledry]

If you buy a replacement you will need the following measurements, body diameter, body length and plunger length. You can also still buy them in brass, the best quality American brass one would probably be by CCL. A cheaper brass alternative would be by S. Parker.

[GTC]

You can also still buy them in brass, the best quality American brass one would probably be by CCL. A cheaper brass alternative would be by S. Parker.

Yes, those were the brands I had seen when I mentioned American locks in my original post. The CCL brass unit looks very similar but it is smaller.

The dimensions of the original lock fit the metric ruler so well that I'm inclined to think its origin is European.

On that basis, maybe my request would be better placed in the European locks section.

[stratmando]

Looks close to an M1 Keyway? It may need a little filing
If it is an M1, and able to Pick, Lishi makes an M1 Pick/ Decoder. Then Decide, make Key. It can also pick the lock.
I was messing with a Schlage Lock and a Lishi Pick/Decoder yesterday, was thinking, It's faster to pick than use the Lishi, and just use the Lishi for Decoding.
Right then, Plug Turned. They take Practice, seems some pins just don't want to set, but you can decide 4 of the five, and get depths, would just need to slowly file the last the space to depth

[Squelchtone]

GTC,
Please fill out your profile so we know where you are from.

I have a feeling the folks who replied to you think you're from the USA but I think you're in Australia which may change which brands of locks your local locksmith shops and online suppliers will stock.

Good luck with your search,
Squelchtone

[billdeserthills]

In my shop I would impression a key for it, however that would still cost more than simply replacing the lock. The old brass lock is of much higher quality as well as being a pin tumbler lock instead of the wafer tumbler replacement but is still susceptible to being picked, so what's the difference?

[cledry]

The two I mentioned are both pin tumbler.

In my shop I would impression a key for it, however that would still cost more than simply replacing the lock. The old brass lock is of much higher quality as well as being a pin tumbler lock instead of the wafer tumbler replacement but is still susceptible to being picked, so what's the difference?

[billdeserthills]

The two I mentioned are both pin tumbler.

In my shop I would impression a key for it, however that would still cost more than simply replacing the lock. The old brass lock is of much higher quality as well as being a pin tumbler lock instead of the wafer tumbler replacement but is still susceptible to being picked, so what's the difference?

& they're both in stock in my van/shop

[GTC]

GTC,
Please fill out your profile so we know where you are from.

Have done. Yes, am in Oz, but organ is from Italy so lock is likely European.

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.

[GTC]

In my shop I would impression a key for it, however that would still cost more than simply replacing the lock.

Yes, it may come to replacing it. I would need one that fits the existing hole, etc.

The old brass lock is of much higher quality as well as being a pin tumbler lock instead of the wafer tumbler replacement but is still susceptible to being picked, so what's the difference?

Definitely not a security issue, more a case of keeping kids out of it when necessary.

[femurat]

I found it! Can send you the technical details tomorrow.

Cheers

[cledry]

CISA?

I found it! Can send you the technical details tomorrow.

Cheers

[stratmando]

Anyone else think it looks like M1 Keyway?