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by Geeves » 22 Dec 2004 13:38
I finally own 2 Medeco mortise cylinder locks. (keyed diferently) My friend gave them to me yesterday after the doors at her work were re-keyed. She owns the place and knows I collect keys and locks so..
She knows nothing about the locksets being restricted nor does she have the cards. I went to a local Medeco locksmith and he says he cannot copy the keys without the card(s). I only have one key for each lock. I wanted to use the locks for my house but I don't want to take the chance of losing the only key- thus necessitating a difficult break in. These locks are too good just to leave in a box, any suggestions?
P.S. I live near Toronto, Ontario, Canada so lockpicking tools are out of the question. 
Hours of trying and only seconds of success,
It all balances out somehow.
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by oldlock » 22 Dec 2004 15:07
Have them rekeyed, that way you have saved yourself the cost of the lock and can have as many keys as you need.
I like the quote in your signature but prefer the next bit -
There is a further theory that it has already happened ...
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by Romstar » 22 Dec 2004 15:43
Geeves wrote:P.S. I live near Toronto, Ontario, Canada so lockpicking tools are out of the question. 
Here we go again.....
Where did this incredible idiotic notion about lockpicks being illegal in Canada come from?
Do a search on this forum for what I have written previously concerning this matter.
To put it succinctly, they are not illegal in Ontario, and even in provinces such as Alberta, Saskatchewan, and British Columbia where they are regulated by provincial law simply having them in your home will NOT result in a criminal charge.
They are no more a "burgler's tool" than a hammer or crowbar.
It's intent, go read Canada Criminal code s.351 s.352 s.353 This should resolve any issues you may have.
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by Geeves » 22 Dec 2004 16:28
To OLDLOCK: it wouldn't all fit.
To ROMSTAR: I'll read up on that- I was told it was illegal just to be in posession of such tools in Ontario.
Hours of trying and only seconds of success,
It all balances out somehow.
Building your own tools works better
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by Romstar » 22 Dec 2004 17:47
Geeves wrote: To ROMSTAR: I'll read up on that- I was told it was illegal just to be in posession of such tools in Ontario.
Sounds to me like you got your information from a police officer. These are the LAST people you want to ask about such things.
Speak to a competent lawyer, and make sure he is aware that you are interested in such tools for HOBBY purposes, and have no such intention of using them in the pursuit of any criminal activity.
Most lawyers are happy to give you a few minutes of their time, as it may lead to proper business down the road.
If you can't find my long drawn out diatribe about this by using the search function, just ask and I will see if I can dig it up.
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by Geeves » 23 Dec 2004 3:11
I have already read it and verified it... strange though... the information did come from a police officer but he is a family friend. He knows its a hobby of mine. I've even opened his secured, unmarked cruiser more than once for him...  Thanks for your information Romstar and you don't need to go digging it up, I know how to search on this site now.
Romstar seeing as your occupation is lock and alarm tech do you have any idea how much it will cost to get them rekeyed? Just trying to keep myself from getting ripped off...
Hours of trying and only seconds of success,
It all balances out somehow.
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by skold » 23 Dec 2004 5:54
Yeah i gotta get a BiLock keyed with a new key and i was worried about ripping off..its also gonna be weird seing as i don't have a key and im gonna have to bring it in picked 
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by Luke » 23 Dec 2004 9:33
Same thing with a bi-lock here, have to get a new face plate on a new gen and have to bring in an old gen picked so they cam key it
But getting that medeco keyed up wont cost more than a 20 i dont think
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by LockingPick540 » 24 Dec 2004 16:39
Geeves wrote:I went to a local Medeco locksmith and he says he cannot copy the keys without the card(s). I only have one key for each lock.
If you really really need to make this key, I suggest buying a grinder and learn how to copy a key
Sorry, if I can't help more, I don't have many more suggestions
Wouldn't it be cool if you could look at people and make their heads explode?
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by skold » 24 Dec 2004 16:42
Do you know what medeco keys are mate??? have fun getting the correct angle
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by Romstar » 24 Dec 2004 17:14
Geeves wrote:I have already read it and verified it... strange though... the information did come from a police officer but he is a family friend. He knows its a hobby of mine. I've even opened his secured, unmarked cruiser more than once for him...  Thanks for your information Romstar and you don't need to go digging it up, I know how to search on this site now. Romstar seeing as your occupation is lock and alarm tech do you have any idea how much it will cost to get them rekeyed? Just trying to keep myself from getting ripped off...
Police officers frequently come in three flavors.
1. The ones who are told something is illegal.
2. The ones who KNOW it's not illegal, but tell you it is anyway.
3. The ones who know it is legal, and are honest with you.
The third one is actually quite rare. The most common one is the first one, and the ones I hate are the second ones. I don't like speaking badly about any law enforcement officer, but sometimes you have to speak your mind.
I am glad you did verify the information, and equally glad you learned the search function on this site. I do have to say it can be a bit annoying trying to search here.
As for your locks, it can run around $50.00 + to rekey those things. Generally, you will have to go to an authorized Medeco distributor. Be prepared for the upsell my good man.
Good luck, and have a great day.
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by Romstar » 24 Dec 2004 17:16
skold wrote:Do you know what medeco keys are mate??? have fun getting the correct angle
Yeah, I'm with you Skold.
It can be done if he has a working key to copy from, but it would certainly be difficult.
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by LockingPick540 » 26 Dec 2004 11:29
at least he'd be able to copy it
Sure, it'd be hard, but who cares if you need it that badly... 
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by jason » 7 Jan 2005 18:25
After reading up on Medecos I wouldn't even try - they are fortunately very rare over here
sledgehammers make excellent back up picks!
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