Schlage padlock.

[Sabin37]

[quote="alias"]I don't know what your skill level is but unless you're a freak you should probably look for something a little less taxing.[quote]

Well, I guess I'm a freak. The first time I got it open was luck, but the second time I actually figured out what I did to get it open.

The key only comes out at the rotation it went in, so having the plug turned without the key in proves that I picked it. I took a picture of it for everyone to see.

[TOWCH]

Can you take an in-focus picture of the plug that shows the pins? Focus is more important than a close up. How long did it take you to pick?

[vector40]

It's a lie! She sawed off the hasp and just arranged it behind the field of view! kidding, kidding.

Seriously, nice work. Do those padlocks not have spring-reset plugs?

[alias]

Hmmm, then let me suspect that there is no sidebar in your lock. I don't mean to disrespect your picking skills but to go from having no idea what it was to picking even a 5 pin Medeco with sidebar is pretty surprising. Whilst you might be a freak I just don't think you're that much of freak

Do you know how the sidebar in a Medeco operates? Have you seen Barry's technique for getting the sidebar? Is it possible to accidentally or without deliberate action get all the pins rotated correctly? Well yes, but not that likely. Any chance you could pull the core and take some more snaps? It would be interesting to see the pins in use as well...the other day I popped the pins from a 6 pin Biaxial mortise cylinder to see what had been frustrating the hell out of me and there were some of the sexiest looking security pins I've ever seen. Will have to see if I can borrow a camera and get some snaps too....

[skold]

gues what i think, it is possible to remove the core and use your hands to manipulate the pins, put the cylinder back in unlocked..easy as 1 2 and 3

alasia, do you still have that video, it has disappeared from the hs locks forums?
if so could you send it to my email?

cheers.

[Sabin37]

How long did it take you to pick?

Since my first attempt about 5 days. For the one successful attempt if you're counting from when no pins are set to the lock being open, about 3 minutes. I frequently reset all the pins if the lock wasn't opening, that's why it only took 3 minutes. I thought if the lock didn't open after a few minutes I might have rotated the pins too far, and if I reset the pins they tend to go back to their original rotation, ergo being closer to the required rotation.

Seriously, nice work. Do those padlocks not have spring-reset plugs?

Thanks. If you look at the picture above you can see that the plug is not quite at 90 degrees. If I push it to 90 degrees, it turns back only that far. There is no spring to push it the rest of the way.

Hmmm, then let me suspect that there is no sidebar in your lock. I don't mean to disrespect your picking skills but to go from having no idea what it was to picking even a 5 pin Medeco with sidebar is pretty surprising. Whilst you might be a freak I just don't think you're that much of freak

Do you know how the sidebar in a Medeco operates? Have you seen Barry's technique for getting the sidebar? Is it possible to accidentally or without deliberate action get all the pins rotated correctly? Well yes, but not that likely. Any chance you could pull the core and take some more snaps? It would be interesting to see the pins in use as well...the other day I popped the pins from a 6 pin Biaxial mortise cylinder to see what had been frustrating the h*** out of me and there were some of the sexiest looking security pins I've ever seen. Will have to see if I can borrow a camera and get some snaps too....

Can a lock with chisel tipped pins not have a sidebar? I don't see how the lock would not have a sidebar because the pins are clearly chisel tipped and the cuts in the key make it obvious that they rotate the pins.

I've been to Medeco's website and watched the video clip on how the lock works with the sidebar. It gave me a good understanding and raimundo also explained how it works, so I actually had an idea of what i was doing. It wasn't complete luck.

I haven't seen Barry's video for picking a lock with a sidebar. Could you send it to me?

[skold]

i still cannot believe it until my medeco's arrive this week..then i will check them out.

[raimundo]

that lock in the picture on page 2 appears to be an american padlock type, with serrated pins and no sidebar. A difficult lock to pick, with a spring fighting the tensor all the way, but they pick if you are persistent.

[raimundo]

sorry, now I looked at the other pictures on page one, and its a chubb cylinder and if thats the right key, its a medeco type, perhaps under liscense to chubb.

[stick]

It's possible that the sidebar was tampered with or removed, in which case, you have an intimidating looking standard lock.

[skold]

omgz0r...i got my medeco's and best today from raimundo ( many many many thanks to you )

i picked my medeco i-core with 4 pins in about 30 seconds, ( maybe i had an easy combonation? )

but, you make a video and prove you can do this picking AND show that the lock is complete with ALL parts.

[MrB]

You should get someone to put the pins in behind your back so you don't know the bitting before you start to pick it.

[skold]

You should get someone to put the pins in behind your back so you don't know the bitting before you start to pick it.

Yeah i hade a good look at the pin heights and how they work etc.., thats about it..btw, i used one of raimundo's bogota rakes..very useful pick, thanks ray!

[Sabin37]

I don't think my lock has a removable core because I don't have a control key, I just have an operating key. Also, the plug in my lock is not visibly connected to the shell. In SFIC locks, the plug and shell come out together, but that's not the "case" here (pun intended).