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by cormu » 6 Dec 2003 6:46
Ok here is the scoop ,
I just receaved the New style picks from southord in replacement of a faulty 8pin pick i had, It seams that the old models ( the ones with the brass collor had a design flaw where the indent to turn the lock was very slight and quicklly became usless with wear, My particualr 8 pinhad no indent at all ,
With the Great service from SouthOrd they replaced my picks for free and they apologised and said they will send me the new set for free to replace my old ones,
The new pics are very good Pic :-
and have adjustable tension which old ones didnt BUT
The new 8 Pin Pick WILL NOT WORK on a 7-pin Lock,
It is amde in such away that it will open the ofset locks too so if you try to use it the shims will not alighn to the 7.pin tubular.
If you have any questions about these new picks please leave you vcomments here ,
But I am Very happy with the new picks ant the desgin flaw has been fixed and they work very well with a bit of breaking in
The service from them has been the best you could ever expect and I wrote them a email saying so.
hope some of you find this info usefull
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by cormu » 6 Dec 2003 6:48
Oh yeah here is a pic of the old one for any of you that do not know them

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by Nasydave » 9 Dec 2003 19:21
For those on a tight budget, if you buy the 8 pin, and then drill another hole for the tension pin in the correct spot (on the interior of the tube) you can switch the pin back and forth and make it a dual purpose 7 pin / 8 pin+ offset tool. (Southord, are you listening??)
One suggestion.. Mine came with one o-ring under the tension collar. I added another, since with one oring it's impossible to dial the tension I want for ACE II (very high) and still have the oring functioning as a gripper.
One other comment..the picture you posted looks like it must be an earlier model than mine. On the 7 you show, you can see the tension pin removal hole (to push on the back of the tension pin) about 1/8 inch from the end, while on mine, the tension pin is about 3/4 inches long.
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by cormu » 10 Dec 2003 1:11
Yeah that must be aold design they never sold cause they still have that 'indent' for the tension , but on mine too it has that new style 'Pin' inside the tube ,
Great Idea for swapping the pin over and drilling the hole
I have managed to open tubulars now that I couldnt open with my old southord set.
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by Zelgadis » 10 Dec 2003 20:57
I have managed to open tubulars now that I couldnt open with my old southord set
What´s the difference from old to new pick that let you open tubulars that you could not open with old one?
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by cormu » 11 Dec 2003 0:51
The main difference its that the tension on the shims can be adjusteded, The newer Ace or AceII Locks and also on the Newer Kryptonite locks require a Much Higher pressure on the shims than the origional, I remember a few threads about how that brass collor on the origional pick adjust the pressure but I can assure you that that is not the case. Even SouthOrd themselves say that those origional pick cant have the tension adujusted without putting some rubberbands around it or somthing to that effect.
I am very happy with the new picks and cant beleave my luck when I complained about the old set to them to get these with no extra charge( nice one SouthOrd). The only downside to the new picks is that they are quite much larger than the other ones.
Adjustable Tubular Manipulation Picks The new SouthOrd tubular lock picks allow adjustment of picking needle pressure, giving them the versatility to pick even tubular locks with higher spring pressures. Each pick has a comfortable, slip resistant rubber handle and is available in seven or eight pin configuration.
Adjustable 
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by att2785 » 16 Dec 2003 6:19
I have both (7 and 8 pick) of the old style brass south ord tube lock picks and I cannot manage to stick them in most locks I come across. The tool gets stuck sliding in and most of the time the picks are nearly impossible to manipulate. Does anyone else have this problem and have an answer to it?
I can stick the pick in fine and open a cheap bike tubular lock I bought, but no luck with others.
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by cormu » 16 Dec 2003 17:03
Yeap its unfortunate but the solution is to get the new style ones ... They are much better made and slide in to the lock easy with none of the shims getting pushed back accidentlly,
With the old ones i had to hold the shims tight to the pick with my fingers while inserting the pick so none of the shims would catch the edge of the lock . needless to say this was made very dificult on alot of locks.
As i said before the new style picks are way superior and I can now open meny locks that before i couldn't (including ACEII) the best part is the varible tension you can apply to the shims.
I guess It wouldn't hurt to send a email to sales@southord.com and ask if there is any discount for the new picks when you have bought already the infieror model.
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by att2785 » 6 Jan 2004 5:08
I complained to South Ord and they agreed to refund the price of my tube picks and even offered me half off the new version with the rubber handle. The new version pick came today and it works beautifully. The brass picks were on discount for a reason, they are cheap pieces of... The new version is worth the money.
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by skynet » 23 Jan 2004 18:00
I also complained and got a new 8 pin set. Can you (Nasydave) please explain how you made your 8 pin into a 7 pin, like how did you remove the old pin attached it back ... Since i can't even test this thing since all locks are 7 pin.
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by skynet » 27 Jan 2004 21:14
I finaly tested my pick after coverting it form 8pin to 7pin (thanks Nasydave !) this is a really nice pick before i could only pick 6/10 locks now with this i can do 10/10 and way faster (haven't tried it on an ace2 lock though ..). So people if you got the old once from southord complain to them and they will send you a free new one. But it worth every penny if you just buy it from them anyways.
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by CuMsCrOtE » 29 Jan 2004 17:46
Have u guys tried the HPC TLP-LRB delux 8 pin pick it also does the 7 pin off set left/ right.. i have the 7 pin vertion at the moment and u dont have to do anything other that put it in the lock and turn!!.. job done..
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by NosePicker » 31 Jan 2004 4:51
I want to get a tubular pick, but I can really only afford one. I was looking at the Southord ones. Should I get the 7 pin or the 8 pin? ALso, it seems like the HPC one can do both, but is there any place to get them, if you are not a locksmith?
THanks!
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by marso » 31 Jan 2004 4:52
These questions have all been answered in other posts.
Consider me inactive or lurker.
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by cormu » 31 Jan 2004 5:13
CuMsCrOtE wrote:Have u guys tried the HPC TLP-LRB delux 8 pin pick it also does the 7 pin off set left/ right.. i have the 7 pin vertion at the moment and u dont have to do anything other that put it in the lock and turn!!.. job done..
this is true only on crap locks try some real high quality ones like ace II then ull find it a bit different .. sounds like to me u havent had much experiance with it
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