Figuring out/Picking Dudley Combination Lock?

[mr.b]

Hi,

I just bought a Dudley combination lock with digits 0-59, and I'm trying to figure out how to get the combination, I looked at the other thread with 15 pages or so, but I found it hard to follow so I'm wondering if somebody could post instructions on how to do it. Thanks.

Mr. B

[Chrispy]

I'm sure in all those pages you could've found something to help you.

But this isn't my area of expertise so I'll wait for the cracking team....

*Ohh Dudley Cracking Teeeaamm......*

[rayman452]

You and me baby ain't nothing but mammals, so lets do it like they do on the discovery channel....


, got that song stuck in my head.

Anyways, on subject.
First off, I'm sorry to inform you that Dudley locks cannot be picked par say. They can however, be manipulated. First off, filling out your profile and being active would help. Since I haven't figured out a for sure way of how to crack this, I request the sticking points you have and I'll put it ot my graph. The reason I don't let this graph out is I'm afraid someone will take the unfinished product, finish it, break and enter, and never tell anyone, defeating the purpose of this sharing site. If you read the thread, please get sticking points, and the basic simple idea behind this principle is patterns.

[mr.b]

Well maybe I'll just wait until you've figured it out completely because right now I tried to get the sticking points and I know how but one of my numbers isnt a sticking point, well it feels like it is a little bit, but i'm not completely sure, and I dont get why some of the sticking points people do like this

1-2

instead of just

1
2

Anyways please let me know once you've figured it out completely.

[Chrispy]

Sometimes stick points are expressed as 1.5, 2.5, 31.5, 32.5, because they stick in between numbers... hence the .5

[Black Blade]

New to the whole lockpicking thing...just came across the site when I was thinking up an idea for a short story, but now that I've read some of the posts on this site I'm finding it all very interesting and I'm sure quite the challenge as well. I have a Dremel and have went out and bought a bunch of dollar store hacksaw blades and a deadbolt from walmart to work on. But before I got started in that direction I see this thread about Dudley locks...since they are so common, I am curious about ways of opening them. I am not clear on what is meant by "stickingpoints" and how these points are found. If someone could explain that I'd appreciate it, thanks.

[TOWCH]

I just got one of these. You can determine if the first two numbers are correct, based on friction in the false notches on the last number. You have to brute force the first two numbers and then on each possible combination, pull on the shackle and rotate the dial on the last number. If the dial rotates freely inside the false notch, it's wrong, if you feel friction in the dial, it's right. If it's right check every number for the last number, if it's wrong, try a different combination. The dialing tolerances are to where only every 5 numbers matters, so brute forcing should only take at max 122 combinations. That's if you eliminate combinations like 0-0, 5-5, 10-10, ect. that I don't think ever happen. With my lock, I would have only had to have tried 58 combinations if I had started at 0-5. It's by no means fast, but I can't imagine graphing being any faster. If these locks were worth the effort, an autodialer would probably be the fastest way, but I doubt anyone would bother.