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Postby hongkongdragon » 29 Jul 2005 18:27

Hi,

I got a question. I think no one asked, or I didn't come across it after using the search function.

Can you determine if the lock is hard to pick by the bounciness of the shackle on a padlock?

Because I got 14 padlock now, this is my 4th weeks since I start lockpicking. And I can open 10 of these. But the remaining 4 have very stiff bounce of the shackle, when I press them.

Thanks in advance for you replies. :D
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Postby digital_blue » 29 Jul 2005 18:32

I would say that there is no direct connection to the two, though it is possible that the padlocks that are "built better" and "stronger" also tend to have locks that are tougher to pick.

Just my thouhts tho.

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Postby Chrispy » 29 Jul 2005 18:51

Your question would also relate to the amount of tension needed as well.
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Postby Mad Mick » 29 Jul 2005 21:22

I'd be inclined to think there is not much relation to picking difficulty here.
Cheaper locks, which use spring-loaded locking bolts, will show resistance when the shackle is pushed in, partly due to the bolt-springs and also due to the shackle spring. The bolt-springs act upon the cam at the back of the plug, giving the increased amount of tension needed when picking, as noted by Chrispy. These locks can also sometimes be shimmed, if there is enough clearance between the shackle and the body.

When you get into ball-locking shackles, some have springs under the heel of the shackle and some don't. The ones with the springs will still give a bit of resistance (not on the plug though), but some locks such as Abloy (which have no spring) will give no resistance what-so-ever.
Another point to be considered with some ball-locking shackle padlocks, is that the balls are in direct contact with the cam on the rear of the plug, therefore it would be impossible to shim this type of lock. This shackle locking style requires less tension on the plug, when picking, than those with spring-loaded deadbolts. Again, Abloy uses this method, but since they use rotating discs, the likelyhood of picking Abloy's is very slim.

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Postby hongkongdragon » 30 Jul 2005 4:21

Thanks to all who have replied. That was very helpful.
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