upvc

[cred]

hi,
just been reading up on how to toe and heel a upvs door, at 1 point it refers to ` the opening door leaf must be raised on the lock side` is the door leaf the opening side?
thanx
ray

[Bump]

Ive got the reference you mentioned. I take it to mean the "door leaf" to be the door frame.

I visualise the problem to be a door frame that needs to be set back to square, hence raising or levering the door frame on the lock side will achieve the effect.

Dont have any experience of the problem as yet!

[Shrub]

Is this a book youre both referring to?

[cred]

shrub this is the link to what we are talking about you have to scroll down the page as it only starts part way down http://www.thewindowman.co.uk/toe_heel.htm
ray

[pinky]

my advice is to attend a good solid course on upvc repair and fitting, i know DG supplyline run one , but i believe don braidwood is setting up a good one too, to toe and heel 1 door is very different to another.

though its a subject not fully mainly i suppose as its not lock picking .

[Shrub]

Thanks cred,

Ive just had a look and i realise i have already done it a few times but didnt know thats what it is called,

The door leaf surely must refer to the doors edge that the lock is inserted to, jacking up the door leaf means to jack the door to square up the door again, jacking up the frame wouldnt do anything.

[keyman]

Hi chaps just reading your posts about toe and heeling a upvc door , before i got into locksmithing iwas and still am a carpenter and window fitter .the term toe and heel refers to the glazing of the door or opening light of a window frame. you wedge the glass in such a way that the weight of unit does not force the door down,the same effect as the ledge and brace on a wooden door it keeps the locking side from dropping and square to the frame hope this helps.

[cred]

hi ,
while we are aon the topic, when you jack a door up back to square before you toe and heel it, how do you get the door to stay in its new position?
thanx
ray

[Shrub]

Leave the jack in.

[Graham@ECG]

By leaving in the jack the door may not close properly!!!!!!

As I do repairs to Double Glazing daily thought i would reply

However you place plastic packers between the sash and panel/glass before fitting the glazing beads.

This stiffens up the door sash and you can adjust slightly to allow for any slight misalignments between lock and keep.

[Shrub]

Yes thats fair enough but the question was how to keep the door square while you insert the plastic wedges/packers etc

[Graham@ECG]

You dont as such keep the door square
You use a plastic glazing shovel between the sash and glass to create a space then fill the void with the packer, and you do this at 4 points diagonally opposite. By doing this you raise the sash, try to keep the glass central.

Also the glazing packers should be ideally 4mm wider than the double glazed unit and they come in height from 1mm up to 6mm

I try to get the feature groove on the sash so that its about half way above the groove on the door frame.

[bonez]

toe & heel , is in effect a method to push the weight of the glass or panel
in the door leaf back towards the hinge side , to keep it square for opening
& closing. if not most pvc doors can be adjusted with an allen key on or in the hinges.