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When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

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Postby Eagerpicker » 25 Aug 2004 11:19

As an addendum to my previous two posts in this thread:

With a tremendous amount of effort I have managed to overcome the high setting pin problem (with only two pins in the lock, mind). The only way was by oversetting the low setting pin a good ways, all the while twisting and rotating a long hook pick to finally make the high setting key pin reach the shear line. Then I slowly release the tension, which makes the first (low) key pin come back up (up, yes, due to it being a euro lock) to the shear line. Then follows a click, a snap and the plug turns. Yippee!! Now I need to learn this technique A) without looking at the pins moving and B) with more than two pins in the lock.


Wish me luck...
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Postby Helmeester » 25 Aug 2004 11:23

youll need it :)

can you search for a picture of that specific pick for me? im pretty curious which one it is
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Postby Helmeester » 25 Aug 2004 11:23

im going downstairs to make another angled tensionwrench, this time angled the right way :)
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Postby Eagerpicker » 25 Aug 2004 11:36

It's the steepest, longest hook I own, one of the SouthOrd slimlines. MSL-08, http://www.southord.com/catalog.asp?cat=locksmith&rowstart=130.
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Postby Helmeester » 25 Aug 2004 16:24

alright thanks.. i still have to make one like that.. my angled tension wrench is doing great for upside down picking :) and the yale is really smooth.. next to my abus and tricircles its my first brand lock :)
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Postby Tomash_PL » 25 Aug 2004 17:05

Hello Everyone :D
I don't want to make a new subiect so i'm placing here a small post with a photo of my picklock's and a question... What else i need?
here is the photo :
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There are from left:
half-diamond, hook, half-hook, very small hook, big hook, long half-diamond, another hook, and tension wrenches.
I know that i'll need a rakes and more half-diamonds.
Am i right?
THX to all of You :D
:D Greetings from Poland :)
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Postby Helmeester » 25 Aug 2004 17:10

yes, if you get some rakes, you'll have a pretty complete standard set.. you might want to get double sided picks as well, but they arent really necessary, diamonds should do those tricks as well
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Postby Tomash_PL » 25 Aug 2004 17:26

As You can see that my picks are made from many materials :D it was my "evolution" in making of lockpicks. I need only a good one grinder :D my friend got one so i will make the rest of picks. I have also some of practice locks, i opened them many times and i'm often changing pin's in their places so it's always a new combination :wink: .
I have many work behind me because i need sometimes a 10minutes to open a simple deadbolt lock. It's shit.
But i'm better everyday. 8)
See ya all.
:D Greetings from Poland :)
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Re: High setting key pins

Postby Helmeester » 26 Aug 2004 8:03

Helmeester wrote:
Eagerpicker wrote:I have set up my cut-away practice cylinder with only two pin columns, the rearmost two. The back one is a very high setting pin, the one in front a very low setting one (the biggest difference I could arrange in key pin height with my spare pins; if the short one is a no. 1, the tall one is a 5 or 6). I've tried all my rakes, seven or eight different designs, but none of them is able to even affect the high setting key pin in such a way that it comes near the shear line. So now I am curious, Romstar, what type of rake design you have in mind for this kind of job. None of my hooks, by the way, not even the steepest, longest ones, is able to push the high setting pin far enough.

What's more, due to the paracentric keyway, it is impossible to push both pins down to the bottom in order to try reverse picking. The lock brand is BKS. Take a look at http://www.g-u.de/Tueren/Schliesszylinder.php, the lock front with "Serie 8800" next to it. The keyway on my lock resembles that one. Click that image and you'll be taken to http://www.g-u.de/Tueren/Schliesszylinder/Serie8800.php, a sizeable picture of the inside of the lock. The pin set-up in the picture differs, of course, from the one I have described above.

Now how to overcome the keyway AND key pin obstacles? Any other suggestions?


my problem is EXACTLY the same, also the furthest two pins, just can't do them! (glad you can't as well :P)

by the way, got a new padlock today! first Yale :D:D haven't picked it yet, its a Image
yale p110 or something, dont know if its got a codename..

very curious what this baby can do :)


does anyone know if this one has got security pins? anyone got this lock? or rate it for difficulty, im kinda like a beginner :)
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Postby Mad Mick » 26 Aug 2004 18:29

Here are the latest picks, finished at work this evening:
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1. Hook
2. 1/2 Diamond
3. King
4. Queen
5. Raimundo's excellent Bogota rake

All handles are exacto knife handles and the pick blades are made from a dipstick blade. The picks were roughed out on a grinder, filed almost to exact shape, then progressively sanded with #220 grit, #400 grit wet & dry. Final finish is from #600 grit.
Image If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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Postby Romstar » 26 Aug 2004 18:45

Nice picks.

How much are you paying for those handles? I thought of using the x-acto knife handles for a few sets, but the price seemed prohibitive.

Maybe I'll just price accordingly.

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Postby Mad Mick » 26 Aug 2004 19:11

I forget the handle price, although, I only have one spare left. Next time I get some more, I'll let you guys know, but remember...everything is expensive in Bermuda, $4.50 for a Heineken in the bar...c'mon!! :evil:

I actually get almost as much satisfaction from making picks, as I do from picking a lock with any implement, as you can probably understand being a pick-maker yourself.

I've always made/adapted things to achieve a particular purpose and this is becoming increasingly interesting since I've gotten into lock picking. Thanks to LP101, this is probably the longest I've managed to stick with a hobby. Look out for my 10,000th post...
Image If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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Postby Eagerpicker » 26 Aug 2004 20:17

You drink HEINEKEN?? My God.... your taste buds have my sympathies...


:wink:
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Postby Helmeester » 27 Aug 2004 6:13

Mad Mick wrote:Here are the latest picks, finished at work this evening:
Image

1. Hook
2. 1/2 Diamond
3. King
4. Queen
5. Raimundo's excellent Bogota rake

All handles are exacto knife handles and the pick blades are made from a dipstick blade. The picks were roughed out on a grinder, filed almost to exact shape, then progressively sanded with #220 grit, #400 grit wet & dry. Final finish is from #600 grit.


very nice and shiny!
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Postby TOWCH » 27 Aug 2004 6:30

You had any luck with that king and queen?
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