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New lock design or has this been done?

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New lock design or has this been done?

Postby Dr-Griz » 28 Sep 2019 16:13

Hi, does anyone know of a fully analogue lock that uses an array of randomly North/South pole magnets for the locking mechanism- and an reverse image of that as the key? I am currently playing around with the 3d mechanism of a 5x5 grid for lock/key.
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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby Raymond » 28 Sep 2019 20:08

Check out Miwa and Corelock.
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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby GWiens2001 » 28 Sep 2019 23:42

Or the EVVA MCS

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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby Dr-Griz » 29 Sep 2019 5:59

GWiens2001 wrote:Or the EVVA MCS

Gordon


Oh yeah, this one is a real beauty! I found all these previously mentioned during my search as well, so I guess my design is still on the table as "new".
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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby Safecrackin Sammy » 29 Sep 2019 6:49

Tons of magnetic padlocks on the web.

Decades ago Alarm Lock made a wall switch that used a magnetic card and changeable grid of magnets. Early form of in-expensive access control.
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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby GWiens2001 » 29 Sep 2019 9:45

Dr-Griz wrote:
GWiens2001 wrote:Or the EVVA MCS

Gordon


Oh yeah, this one is a real beauty! I found all these previously mentioned during my search as well, so I guess my design is still on the table as "new".


How is your design different from a MIWA EC lock?

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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby Dr-Griz » 29 Sep 2019 12:03

GWiens2001 wrote:
Dr-Griz wrote:
GWiens2001 wrote:Or the EVVA MCS

Gordon


Oh yeah, this one is a real beauty! I found all these previously mentioned during my search as well, so I guess my design is still on the table as "new".


How is your design different from a MIWA EC lock?

Gordon


It's a lot like a magnetic padlock, but the locking mechanism (5x5 grid of magnets) is being held by a steel plate preventing any single magnet to pull it off the plate and unlock it. If a 5x5 grid of wrong orientation magnets are used, the combined attraction force is below the threshhold required to pull it off the plate (as the wrong orientation magnets repel).
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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby jwrm22 » 30 Sep 2019 2:55

Try to work it out in CAD. Either computer aided design or cardboard aided design.
We cannot tell you if your idea is different if we do not understand what you came up with.
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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby Squelchtone » 30 Sep 2019 7:41

jwrm22 wrote:Try to work it out in CAD. Either computer aided design or cardboard aided design.
We cannot tell you if your idea is different if we do not understand what you came up with.


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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby Dr-Griz » 30 Sep 2019 16:24

jwrm22 wrote:Try to work it out in CAD. Either computer aided design or cardboard aided design.
We cannot tell you if your idea is different if we do not understand what you came up with.


Done that, several version of it. I wonder if I could/should attach a .stl file here and if it would help understand it better...
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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby Squelchtone » 30 Sep 2019 20:15

Dr-Griz wrote:
jwrm22 wrote:Try to work it out in CAD. Either computer aided design or cardboard aided design.
We cannot tell you if your idea is different if we do not understand what you came up with.


Done that, several version of it. I wonder if I could/should attach a .stl file here and if it would help understand it better...


We dont support any attachments and most people here cant view a cad file.

Could you save a screenshot or two as a .png or .jpg and post them on photobucket or imgur and paste the link here?

Thank you,
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Re: New lock design or has this been done?

Postby GWiens2001 » 1 Oct 2019 16:37

Or a link do the .stl file.

I like the old style magnetic padlocks. There are four magnets, each must be in the correct location to apply the correct angle for the steel pins.

Will take a picture of a cutaway one I have at home when I remember.

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