Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

LOTO 410

THE starting place for new members. FAQ's, instructions on how to pick a lock, valuable information like product reviews, links to lock picking related sites, forum rules, lockpicking tool vendors, and more. START HERE.

LOTO 410

Postby Steady » 24 Dec 2020 9:42

I have a couple LOTO locks that I was able to pick about 15 times each. But lately, I cant seem to get them open anymore. The key still works and functions smoothly/correctly. Do some locks change in difficulty after some use? It is frustrating to be able to open them weeks ago and then cant seem to get the pins to set anymore. I practice picking almost everyday so it is not like that should be a problem.

Any thoughts?
Steady
 
Posts: 4
Joined: 28 Sep 2020 18:26

Re: LOTO 410

Postby stratmando » 24 Dec 2020 10:03

Some call it cheating, does looking at the Key Help?
If not, may be Binding Order.
stratmando
 
Posts: 1221
Joined: 26 Nov 2005 21:54
Location: Florida Keys

Re: LOTO 410

Postby GWiens2001 » 24 Dec 2020 18:34

Wear on the pins and pin channels will cause some things to change, as can dirt or lube. Fine shavings from pin and pin channel wear can also build up over time.

Also, some times you will pick better, and some times you will pick not so well.

Gordon
Just when you finally think you have learned it all, that is when you learn that you don't know anything yet.
User avatar
GWiens2001
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7557
Joined: 3 Sep 2012 16:24
Location: Arizona, United States

Re: LOTO 410

Postby Steady » 24 Dec 2020 20:30

Thanks. Looked at the key and opened it 4 more times. Shallow 2 and 5 pins. 2 was the false set and 3 was the spool. Just needed to study it in detail and map out the sequence.

I will work on the other LOTO tomorrow.
Steady
 
Posts: 4
Joined: 28 Sep 2020 18:26

Re: LOTO 410

Postby Kenneth_V » 25 Dec 2020 2:47

I have a couple Master LOTO locks that have a mind of their own.

One day I can pick it over and over, next day I can’t get it open for the life of me.

I think the problem for me when that happens is tension, not picking.

A nice scotch seems to get things back on track!!!
Kenneth_V
 
Posts: 179
Joined: 19 Oct 2020 13:02
Location: Great White North- Canada

Re: LOTO 410

Postby GWiens2001 » 25 Dec 2020 9:47

Tension is the most important part of picking a lock, IMHO. I have more tension/turning tools in my kit than picks.

Gordon
Just when you finally think you have learned it all, that is when you learn that you don't know anything yet.
User avatar
GWiens2001
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7557
Joined: 3 Sep 2012 16:24
Location: Arizona, United States


Return to Lock Picking 101 - FAQs, Tutorials, and General Information

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest